kiwi_db Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 This post is regarding an error in the construction planner. I followed the link Kiara Kat posted for planner corrections, but it seems to be a broken link as I am not authorised to read it, and this seems to be the next most appropriate place to post. If that link can be opened up, please move this post to that thread/forum. The experience value for the level 76 square shield seems to have been entered twice, moving every experience value below it down one place. I have also noticed that there are several costume room items missing, particularly the magic wardrobes. Sadly, i dont have a siggy.NO I DON'T SMOKEoops, that'd be ciggy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemama Posted July 6, 2008 Share Posted July 6, 2008 apologies for the links, forum is still a bit chaotic due to the reset. Right now we like for people to create new topics for each issue. I have confirmed your concerns so our calculator/planner guy can do his magic: 1. On the "ALL" list for *both* the planner *and* the calculator, the 360xp for the Square shield is erroneously copied down one and thus everything below it is off by one (I used the Gilded Throne 1800 as a check.) 2. On the "ALL" list, the wardrobes for the costume room (several have the same name as the bedroom ones) are not listed though the bedroom ones are: http://tip.it/runescape/construction_ta ... ection=ASC Bedroom: Oak Wardrobe 39 - 180 Teak Wardrobe 63 - 270 Mahogany Wardrobe 75 - 420 Gilded Wardrobe 87 - 720 http://tip.it/runescape/construction_ta ... ection=ASC Costume Room: Oak wardrobe 42 - 240 Carved oak wardrobe 51 - 360 Teak wardrobe 60 - 360 Carved teak wardrobe 69 - 500 Mahogany wardrobe 78 - 540 Gilded wardrobe 87 - 860 Marble wardrobe 96 - 500 3. I didn't check which other costume room items might be missing from the "All" list. :oops: 4. Additionally, the Construction Planner does not have a link back to the calculator. ;) it's a lot easier to get over yourself when you look at intelligence the same way you look at beauty, or height, or eye color: being smart is easy, but being good is hard ... being smart is handed to you, being good is handed to *nobody*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kiwi_db Posted July 8, 2008 Author Share Posted July 8, 2008 I have completed a more thorough inspection of the 'ALL' list of the Construction planner/calculator, and have found the following errors, using the Knowledge Base as a reference. :ugeek: Missing Items :ohnoes: Lvl 66 Rosemary - formal garden As it turns out Pokemama, all items in the costume room are missing. :shock: It should also be noted, that the costume room wardrobes will need another name, as not only can they be confused with the bedroom ones, :wall: there is in fact two level 87 gilded wardrobes, one for the bedroom, and one for the costume room. :? The costume room wardrobe uses an extra plank, so has a slightly higher experience value. ;) Incorrect experience values according to the Knowledge Base ( experience values are posted as Tip.it/Knowledge Base) :shock: Lvl 1 Crude wooden chair - parlour 58/66 Lvl 27 Oak staircase - skill/quest hall, dungeon 600/680 Lvl 39 Jester - games room 390/360 Lvl 45 Steel torches - chapel 80/40 Lvl 60 Posh bell-pull - dining room 390/420 Lvl 66 Crystal of power - study 590/890 Lvl 69 Marble burners - chapel 1600/1040 Lvl 71 Daffodils - formal garden 70/100 Lvl 81 Gilded throne - throne room 1800/1700 I'm unsure about the exact amount of experience Barlak gives for trading curved and long bones. :oops: The experience values given in the planner/calculator is 2250 and 1500 respectively, and while I do not question the accuracy of these, I havn't found enough information in the Knowledge Base to back this up. The only reference the Knowledge Base makes about them (in the Dorgesh Kaan area guide) is not detailed enough to include the amount of xp given. :evil: Having said all that, I have found (and reported) an error in the Knowledge Base (the garden's lvl 12 bagged plant 3 fern is reported to give 70 xp while the other three plants give 100), :o so it is not unreasonable to say that the Knowledge Base isn't completely accurate either. #-o I also found that the effect caused by the double entry of the square shield experience value, ends at the treasure room's Lvl 91 Magic chest. \ That experience value has not been added to the table yet. :wall: Sadly, i dont have a siggy.NO I DON'T SMOKEoops, that'd be ciggy :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pokemama Posted July 8, 2008 Share Posted July 8, 2008 Wow, thanks for the exhaustive review, it's much appreciated!! The ultimate reliable method for finding xp is to have someone make it in game (not always convenient when talking about something really expensive!) If we lack ingame confirmation we try to go by the materials xp for each one. A wooden plank and nail is around 28.9 xp, oak plank is exactly 60, teak plank is 90, mahogany plank is 140, and so on (see the materials lists in the skill guide http://tip.it/runescape/index.php?page= ... htm#stonem ). So assembling an opulent table depends on the materials used to make it, including gold leaf (300xp), marble block (500xp), and so on. Lvl 1 Crude wooden chair - parlour 58/66 - 2 planks 2 nails @ 28.9 each = 58. I'm at a loss as to why the KB has bumped this up, since the value of a plank/nail stays steady at 28.9 for all other uses. Need someone to make this in game and let us know the xp! Lvl 27 Oak staircase - skill/quest hall, dungeon 600/680 - 10 oak planks @60 each (600) plus 4 steel bars @20 each (80) = 680 (I've changed our construction table) Confirmed need to change Lvl 39 Jester - games room 390/360 - 4 teak planks @90 each indicates 360 which matches our Construction Table http://tip.it/runescape/construction_ta ... Games+room Confirmed need to change Lvl 45 Steel torches - chapel 80/40 - 2 steel bars @20 each indicates 40 which matches our Construction Table http://tip.it/runescape/construction_ta ... ble=Chapel Confirmed need to change Lvl 60 Posh bell-pull - dining room 390/420 - 1 teak plank @90 plus 2 cloth@15 each (30 total) plus 1 gold leaf @300 = 420 (I've changed our construction table) Confirmed need to change Lvl 66 Crystal of power - study 590/890 - 2 mahogany planks @140 each (280 total) plus 1 unpowered orb (?? no idea) plus 2 gold leaf @300 each (600 total) = min 880 ((I've changed our construction table) Confirmed need to change Lvl 69 Marble burners - chapel 1600/1040 - 2 marble blocks @500 each (1000 total) plus 2 steel bars @20 each (40 total) = 1040 (I've changed our construction table) Confirmed need to change Lvl 71 Daffodils - 70/100 - no way to verify except to plant them in game. As you noted there are other plants that are in error, no telling if the error is just in the KB or also in the game. :( Lvl 81 Gilded throne - throne room 1800/1700 - 5 mahogany planks @ 140 each (700 total) plus 2 marble blocks @500 each (1000 total) plus 3 gold leaf @300 each (900 total) = 2600 ?? whoa no clue what to do here it's a lot easier to get over yourself when you look at intelligence the same way you look at beauty, or height, or eye color: being smart is easy, but being good is hard ... being smart is handed to you, being good is handed to *nobody*. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All_Bogs Posted July 15, 2008 Share Posted July 15, 2008 The construction calc's all section was rather annoying to make due to duplicate names and being frickin' huge. I'm only human, mistakes happen. I'll start fixing it. Terribly sorry about the mess. Edit: it's done. Crude wooden chair, daffodils and throne awaiting verification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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