Could a Facist Democracy work?

[Lenticular_J]

I believe Che Guevara sums it up nicely on that points for me: "Maybe one day, some miner will joyfully take up his pick and go and poison his lungs with a smile. They say that's what it's like over there, where the red blaze dazzling the world comes from. So they say. I don't know."

 

 

 

Kinda out of date due to the reference to the USSR, but his skepticism of someone ever happily doing menial, mundane, and difficult tasks for no real reward is something I share.

[Shinjula]

I well I'd like to introduce you to someone who is now doing a menial and mundane task and quite enjoying it thanks very much i.e. me. I currently work as a cleaner and it suits me fine. OK its not dangerous, like mining. But I'd happily do it if I were in a Communist society.

 

 

 

I'm also one who's hoping for us to get out technoogical butt moving regards working, many jobs can, with todays technology be made completely machine based, yet because we have a weird [wagon] work ethic (I.e. that a person should be working, and also must be working in order to recieve money) we can't lose those jobs to machines for fear of depriving people of a job (???)

[Shinjula]

Oh and I almost missed of a vitally important reward - all of your needs met no matter what your circumstances, so if your a farmer and your farm is hit by a hurricane you will still be able to eat, you will have access to the best medical care no matter what sort of job you do, the education of your children will be provided free. In a decent communist society, you would also be provided with your entertainment free - currently this isn't something many of the modern communist societies have gone for but I think I would count it as an essential in any communist utopia - and I am talking about a utopian version of communism where mankind has evolved past the need for greed. I am not talking about creating on out of the humans currently living on the planet, you humans are far too dumb and self centred for my liking, but hey, I didn't choose this planet to live on.

 

 

 

I'd also like to point out that we are still ignoring the main thrust of my point, that whilst communism doesn't work (currently) neither does capitalism (except that in Capitalsims case, it never can). Capitalist countries are chock full of homeless unemployed people, its a competitive society and in any competition there are losers and having a system which has built in 'losers' in life is a very bad idea. Especially when it is not due to effort. People lose their businesses due to random chance and actions out of their control. Downward spiral are also a hallmark of capitalism, one bad choice and you can be on your way downwards for the rest of your life. This is not a system which can in any way be described as good for it's citizens. Sure its great if your one of the people who have been given all the resources available, education, savings and medical aid, as a child, but this only applies to less than half of most capitalist populations. But for the rest of your population it is mostly a hard slog of a life with no reward.