compfreak847 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah, I see what you're talking about. Where do you kill the Aviancies? I'm killing them above the fountain to avoid the crowds, but is this a good idea? If you want to avoid fighting for Aviansies, I suggest the Eeryie, but you will need both a Zamorak and an Armadyl item. The ones inside are too high level to kill effectively, and you have to sacrifice your fury for a 0 stat bonus item. Kill the 79\69 just below the fountain for the first 10 minutes, and the 69\71\sometimes 79 once they stop being aggressive. The idea is to kill the ones with the lowest defence\HP. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamReaper Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inuashakent Posted January 13, 2009 Author Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah, I see what you're talking about. Where do you kill the Aviancies? I'm killing them above the fountain to avoid the crowds, but is this a good idea? If you want to avoid fighting for Aviansies, I suggest the Eeryie, but you will need both a Zamorak and an Armadyl item. The ones inside are too high level to kill effectively, and you have to sacrifice your fury for a 0 stat bonus item. Kill the 79\69 just below the fountain for the first 10 minutes, and the 69\71\sometimes 79 once they stop being aggressive. The idea is to kill the ones with the lowest defence\HP. I thought I'm suppost to use a Saradomin stole. [Summoning guide (AOW)] [Slayer guide] [Melee & Brawl player] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah, I see what you're talking about. Where do you kill the Aviancies? I'm killing them above the fountain to avoid the crowds, but is this a good idea? If you want to avoid fighting for Aviansies, I suggest the Eeryie, but you will need both a Zamorak and an Armadyl item. The ones inside are too high level to kill effectively, and you have to sacrifice your fury for a 0 stat bonus item. Kill the 79\69 just below the fountain for the first 10 minutes, and the 69\71\sometimes 79 once they stop being aggressive. The idea is to kill the ones with the lowest defence\HP. I thought I'm suppost to use a Saradomin stole. Or that :-# What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 Yeah, I see what you're talking about. Where do you kill the Aviancies? I'm killing them above the fountain to avoid the crowds, but is this a good idea? If you want to avoid fighting for Aviansies, I suggest the Eeryie, but you will need both a Zamorak and an Armadyl item. Those aviansies have double the hp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamReaper Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. How many hours have you tested this, exactly? I've had 70+ hours of ACCURATE testing. And by accurate I mean 'stopwatch and screenshots'. Not to be condescending or anything, but you do realize I've gotten more range XP at avansies alone then you have in your entire RS carrier? Sorry for coming across as an arrogant jerk, but it irritates me when people make irrational statements obviously not based on real world tests. Plus, my range level (and range level when testing, I've leveled from 78-98 almost exclusively at avansies\spirit mages) is much closer to his then yours, indicating that my results would be closer in terms of accuracy and hitting power. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamReaper Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. How many hours have you tested this, exactly? I've had 70+ hours of ACCURATE testing. And by accurate I mean 'stopwatch and screenshots'. Not to be condescending or anything, but you do realize I've gotten more range XP at avansies alone then you have in your entire RS carrier? Sorry for coming across as an arrogant jerk, but it irritates me when people make irrational statements obviously not based on real world tests. Plus, my range level (and range level when testing, I've leveled from 78-98 almost exclusively at avansies\spirit mages) is much closer to his then yours, indicating that my results would be closer in terms of accuracy and hitting power. You notice that I never said that you will get X amount of experience in X amount of time, right? I simply stated that the hunter's crossbow could be an alternative to obby rings. Why must you be so closed minded about new suggestions that could provide a viable alternative? And honestly, it takes not even 5 shots of each weapon to determine the speed. I figured out the max hits from use in Fist of Guthix; for both of them they maxed about every 3rd hit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. How many hours have you tested this, exactly? I've had 70+ hours of ACCURATE testing. And by accurate I mean 'stopwatch and screenshots'. Not to be condescending or anything, but you do realize I've gotten more range XP at avansies alone then you have in your entire RS carrier? Sorry for coming across as an arrogant jerk, but it irritates me when people make irrational statements obviously not based on real world tests. Plus, my range level (and range level when testing, I've leveled from 78-98 almost exclusively at avansies\spirit mages) is much closer to his then yours, indicating that my results would be closer in terms of accuracy and hitting power. You notice that I never said that you will get X amount of experience in X amount of time, right? I simply stated that the hunter's crossbow could be an alternative to obby rings. Why must you be so closed minded about new suggestions that could provide a viable alternative? And honestly, it takes not even 5 shots of each weapon to determine the speed. I figured out the max hits from use in Fist of Guthix; for both of them they maxed about every 3rd hit. That's wonderful to know. Unfortunately, max hits don't quite represent the entire spectrum, and XP rates over 40 hours tend to be slightly more accurate then 'i used 5 shots in FOG and this ones max hit is higher so its better!' And FOG =\= Avansies. Test the monster, don't test somewhere that has almost nothing to do with Avansies. You can't even pot at FOG, and I doubt you carefully recorded rates with the standard 10% range boost and full void equipment set identical to the one used at avansies. Look: It's nice that you suggest alternatives, but I'm telling you: I've tested everything, including crossbow, extensively and accurately, and throwing rings far outdo them in terms of both XP, stealing, and GP. (As for stealing, it's very satisfying when someone yells at you for taking 'their' avansie. Just follow them around and attack whatever they do; you'll outhit them 97% of the time until they hop. It's easily possible to chase everyone out of a world, and make whoever comes hop quickly. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamReaper Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 [hide=]What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. How many hours have you tested this, exactly? I've had 70+ hours of ACCURATE testing. And by accurate I mean 'stopwatch and screenshots'. Not to be condescending or anything, but you do realize I've gotten more range XP at avansies alone then you have in your entire RS carrier? Sorry for coming across as an arrogant jerk, but it irritates me when people make irrational statements obviously not based on real world tests. Plus, my range level (and range level when testing, I've leveled from 78-98 almost exclusively at avansies\spirit mages) is much closer to his then yours, indicating that my results would be closer in terms of accuracy and hitting power. You notice that I never said that you will get X amount of experience in X amount of time, right? I simply stated that the hunter's crossbow could be an alternative to obby rings. Why must you be so closed minded about new suggestions that could provide a viable alternative? And honestly, it takes not even 5 shots of each weapon to determine the speed. I figured out the max hits from use in Fist of Guthix; for both of them they maxed about every 3rd hit. That's wonderful to know. Unfortunately, max hits don't quite represent the entire spectrum, and XP rates over 40 hours tend to be slightly more accurate then 'i used 5 shots in FOG and this ones max hit is higher so its better!' And FOG =\= Avansies. Test the monster, don't test somewhere that has almost nothing to do with Avansies. You can't even pot at FOG, and I doubt you carefully recorded rates with the standard 10% range boost and full void equipment set identical to the one used at avansies.[/hide] Like I said before, I simply stated that it could be a viable alternative; I never said that I had definitive proof that it was an awesome weapon that got 400k xp p/h. And also, not using ranged potions is simply taking out a variable. You're not at the same exact ranged level every second that you're potted, which could lead to skewed results. And whether or not I used the void wouldn't matter, it adds 10% to both of them if I used it; and if I didn't use it, I simply wouldn't have that 10%; it's the same ratio (this goes for 10% ranged as well). Lastly, the 5 shots was simply for speed, not power, and you notice I said that the obby rings hit higher, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 [hide=]What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. How many hours have you tested this, exactly? I've had 70+ hours of ACCURATE testing. And by accurate I mean 'stopwatch and screenshots'. Not to be condescending or anything, but you do realize I've gotten more range XP at avansies alone then you have in your entire RS carrier? Sorry for coming across as an arrogant jerk, but it irritates me when people make irrational statements obviously not based on real world tests. Plus, my range level (and range level when testing, I've leveled from 78-98 almost exclusively at avansies\spirit mages) is much closer to his then yours, indicating that my results would be closer in terms of accuracy and hitting power. You notice that I never said that you will get X amount of experience in X amount of time, right? I simply stated that the hunter's crossbow could be an alternative to obby rings. Why must you be so closed minded about new suggestions that could provide a viable alternative? And honestly, it takes not even 5 shots of each weapon to determine the speed. I figured out the max hits from use in Fist of Guthix; for both of them they maxed about every 3rd hit. That's wonderful to know. Unfortunately, max hits don't quite represent the entire spectrum, and XP rates over 40 hours tend to be slightly more accurate then 'i used 5 shots in FOG and this ones max hit is higher so its better!' And FOG =\= Avansies. Test the monster, don't test somewhere that has almost nothing to do with Avansies. You can't even pot at FOG, and I doubt you carefully recorded rates with the standard 10% range boost and full void equipment set identical to the one used at avansies.[/hide] Like I said before, I simply stated that it could be a viable alternative; I never said that I had definitive proof that it was an awesome weapon that got 400k xp p/h. And also, not using ranged potions is simply taking out a variable. You're not at the same exact ranged level every second that you're potted, which could lead to skewed results. And whether or not I used the void wouldn't matter, it adds 10% to both of them if I used it; and if I didn't use it, I simply wouldn't have that 10%; it's the same ratio (this goes for 10% ranged as well). Lastly, the 5 shots was simply for speed, not power, and you notice I said that the obby rings hit higher, right? Ok, I'll show you my original point again. Obby rings will earn you around 200k more profit and 25k more XP then hunter crossbow. I have facts and numbers to back it up. What are you trying to argue for? Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamReaper Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 [hide=]What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. How many hours have you tested this, exactly? I've had 70+ hours of ACCURATE testing. And by accurate I mean 'stopwatch and screenshots'. Not to be condescending or anything, but you do realize I've gotten more range XP at avansies alone then you have in your entire RS carrier? Sorry for coming across as an arrogant jerk, but it irritates me when people make irrational statements obviously not based on real world tests. Plus, my range level (and range level when testing, I've leveled from 78-98 almost exclusively at avansies\spirit mages) is much closer to his then yours, indicating that my results would be closer in terms of accuracy and hitting power. You notice that I never said that you will get X amount of experience in X amount of time, right? I simply stated that the hunter's crossbow could be an alternative to obby rings. Why must you be so closed minded about new suggestions that could provide a viable alternative? And honestly, it takes not even 5 shots of each weapon to determine the speed. I figured out the max hits from use in Fist of Guthix; for both of them they maxed about every 3rd hit. That's wonderful to know. Unfortunately, max hits don't quite represent the entire spectrum, and XP rates over 40 hours tend to be slightly more accurate then 'i used 5 shots in FOG and this ones max hit is higher so its better!' And FOG =\= Avansies. Test the monster, don't test somewhere that has almost nothing to do with Avansies. You can't even pot at FOG, and I doubt you carefully recorded rates with the standard 10% range boost and full void equipment set identical to the one used at avansies.[/hide] Like I said before, I simply stated that it could be a viable alternative; I never said that I had definitive proof that it was an awesome weapon that got 400k xp p/h. And also, not using ranged potions is simply taking out a variable. You're not at the same exact ranged level every second that you're potted, which could lead to skewed results. And whether or not I used the void wouldn't matter, it adds 10% to both of them if I used it; and if I didn't use it, I simply wouldn't have that 10%; it's the same ratio (this goes for 10% ranged as well). Lastly, the 5 shots was simply for speed, not power, and you notice I said that the obby rings hit higher, right? Ok, I'll show you my original point again. Obby rings will earn you around 200k more profit and 25k more XP then hunter crossbow. I have facts and numbers to back it up. What are you trying to argue for? Ok, thank you. If you could have said that in the beginning none of this would have happened. I stated that I thought the hunter's crossbow could have been an alternative; I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 [hide=]\What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). \\ Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. How many hours have you tested this, exactly? I've had 70+ hours of ACCURATE testing. And by accurate I mean 'stopwatch and screenshots'. Not to be condescending or anything, but you do realize I've gotten more range XP at avansies alone then you have in your entire RS carrier? Sorry for coming across as an arrogant jerk, but it irritates me when people make irrational statements obviously not based on real world tests. Plus, my range level (and range level when testing, I've leveled from 78-98 almost exclusively at avansies\spirit mages) is much closer to his then yours, indicating that my results would be closer in terms of accuracy and hitting power. You notice that I never said that you will get X amount of experience in X amount of time, right? I simply stated that the hunter's crossbow could be an alternative to obby rings. Why must you be so closed minded about new suggestions that could provide a viable alternative? And honestly, it takes not even 5 shots of each weapon to determine the speed. I figured out the max hits from use in Fist of Guthix; for both of them they maxed about every 3rd hit. That's wonderful to know. Unfortunately, max hits don't quite represent the entire spectrum, and XP rates over 40 hours tend to be slightly more accurate then 'i used 5 shots in FOG and this ones max hit is higher so its better!' And FOG =\= Avansies. Test the monster, don't test somewhere that has almost nothing to do with Avansies. You can't even pot at FOG, and I doubt you carefully recorded rates with the standard 10% range boost and full void equipment set identical to the one used at avansies.[/hide] Like I said before, I simply stated that it could be a viable alternative; I never said that I had definitive proof that it was an awesome weapon that got 400k xp p/h. And also, not using ranged potions is simply taking out a variable. You're not at the same exact ranged level every second that you're potted, which could lead to skewed results. And whether or not I used the void wouldn't matter, it adds 10% to both of them if I used it; and if I didn't use it, I simply wouldn't have that 10%; it's the same ratio (this goes for 10% ranged as well). Lastly, the 5 shots was simply for speed, not power, and you notice I said that the obby rings hit higher, right? Ok, I'll show you my original point again. Obby rings will earn you around 200k more profit and 25k more XP then hunter crossbow. I have facts and numbers to back it up. What are you trying to argue for? Ok, thank you. If you could have said that in the beginning none of this would have happened. I stated that I thought the hunter's crossbow could have been an alternative; I was wrong. What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. That was an incorrect statement. Both adamant bolts and hunter's crossbow with long kebbit bolts (which is actually more expensive then addy and roughly the same speed) are much worse then throwing rings. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamReaper Posted January 13, 2009 Share Posted January 13, 2009 What about the hunter's crossbow? It's nearly as powerful and as fast as obby rings, but the bolts are cheaper (although it can take a few hours to buy them). Not a chance. Addy bolts out hit them. Addy bolts out hit obby rings too. My point was that they only hit 1 or 2 less than the rings, are just as fast , but cost half as much. That was an incorrect statement. Both adamant bolts and hunter's crossbow with long kebbit bolts (which is actually more expensive then addy and roughly the same speed) are much worse then throwing rings. I assumed that you meant out hit as in hit higher than; my mistake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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