Freeworld updates and misc.

[Ronaldo9]

 

 

Free worlds can't use Dragon armor or weapons, so the "gap" between them shouldn't really even concern you...unless you plan on buying members.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, whilst some of the other ideas were grand, on the whole I think most of the population (including many, many free players) would agree that the f2p worlds should not get this huge of an update. If you give them something to make at level 85 crafting, then they'll be training for nothing until that level. Just, (and please don't flame back to this. There's been enough arguments on this subject already), buy members and use the updates it offers. I mean...what do you honestly expect to get update wise from a free world, anyways?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Here we go again...

 

 

 

More destructive-criticism from Outstanity yet again!

 

 

 

Like I have told you many, many times: for some people, five dollars a month is not an option. But I do not realisticly think that this is likely to happen anyway. I have to agree on you that raising to level 85 crafting is not only boring, but the only things you can make with F2P crafting end at leather armour...

 

 

 

On a different note, Ishbar, very well thought out post, but diamonds really cannot be moulded just like metal. There are more of a stone. But the idea seems pretty well thought out anyway. Good job!

 

 

 

Thanks,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Elimist5000

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only thing I can do is laugh at this post and give you this hypothetical statement:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You want to buy a pizza at a pizza place, which costs $10.00, but also want to buy a drink, which cost $2.50 more. However, you only have $10.00...I don't think the pizza place is going to give you a free drink just because you don't think it's fair that people who pay for drinks get drinks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean...how stupid and illogical does that sound? Exactly. Same case with Runescape. If you can't pay, quit whining, and move on. It's not like getting Runescape members is going to decide life or death on your part. Just go outside and play sports, ride a bike, or talk to friends. Entertain yourself in other ways if Runescape free worlds are seriously depressing you this much. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Where do you buy pizzas...............cause you are getting ripped!!!! lol

[Raichase]

They should get a taste of members... its not like its going to kill us is it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, I apologise in advance to anyone that thinks I am a complete and utter jerk. I'm not. I'm a very calm, mild person, but I am very much annoyed by ignorance, stupidity... call it what you will.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I hope most of you wil agree that this reply is called for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Archimage_a. You, my friend (I use the term purely as part of a cliche) are a complete and utter smackhead. What the hell are you thinking? Literally, what is the deal with your thought process?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me spell it out so even you can understand it for you, and we're talking bloody neanderthal simple here.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Runescape, like all other MMORPG games on the internet is a PAY to play game. This means that you, as a user, must PAY using real (not monopoly) money, and in return you are GIVEN a service. In this case, you are granted the right to play ALL of Runescape.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't care how Runescape started. I KNOW it used to all be free. How wonderfull the world would be if all good things that we wanted were free. However, there is a little thing called MONEY that we use, have been using for many years, and... I got news for you... IT WORKS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Okay, so you want to play Runescape, but you don't want to pay for a game you have never seen. I bet they have a demo avaliable, or a trial, or something that gives you a taster of what the game is meant to be before you take the plunge, and get your real (no, paper drawings of money are not real) money out and pay for the game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, look at that, you can play for free. Lets take a look at what you get to play with...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whoa, 1/5 of the whole world's playing area?!?

 

 

 

Whoo, more than *10* quests?!?

 

 

 

HALF the skills in the game!?!

 

 

 

3 DIFFERENT fighting styles?!?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Are you kidding me?!? Whats the time limit on all of this, is this demo a week long, or just an hour long. What, you can play it forever with no end in sight?!? The only price is that there are banner ads?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

WHERE THE HELL IS THE CATCH?!?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, you want a TASTER of members. I'll let you in on a secret, on how you can get it for free. Go, log into your account on any of the free world servers. Now, stop for a minute and actually LOOK at all the stuff you can do... and you don't pay a cent! Don't even try to push that tired BS that you click on the ads to pay for your use. Thats bull, and you know it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hey, now that you have tried your taster of members (I tried it for 3.5 years), why not sign up and get the full deal? It's only US$5 a month. Yeah, thats a lot cheaper than other online games.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perhaps Jagex have taken the wrong road. Perhaps it should be called "Runescape" and "Runescape Trial". Make F2P only playable for a week. Take away everything in all skills above lvl 25. Remove monsters stronger than lvl 50. Put the armour/weapons/pickaxe cap at mithril. Take away anything West of the Barbarian Village and East of Lumbridge.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't like it either, but then you would have yourself a trial. Consdier how much you do get, and be happy.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If none of that got through to you, I think I am going to have to hit you with my pickaxe a few dozen times. Either I'll knock some sense into you, or I'll knock you unconcious. I'm not complaining either way.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Disclaimer: I realise that my reply is going to get this topic locked. If anyone has any problems with the way I have expressed my opinion here, you are more than welcome to take it up via PM.

[archimage_a]

On the occassion that i do eventually lose it, I may agree with you that, basicly no one pays a blind bit of notice to my suggestions because I do not put them though so extreme testing process like you lot do. I think of something and post it thats it no in the middle rubbish, If you hate the idea I can accept it. If you hate the idea say why then If I come up with a future idea its a better idea because I then can see what the problem was.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Neanderthals where acctually smarter than humans they just died out thats it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes I understand the entire concept of money and I can see that if jagex let more people experiance the full game then more people would want it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ok look at it like this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have a pound I could do two things with it. I could put it into a jar and save it, or I could spend it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

While it is in the jar the shop can't (realisticly with out breaking into my house) get it. I go to the shop the next day and see some choclate bar, I want it but It costs a pound. Now I could spend the pound then I would have the choclate but no pound, or I could get someone else to buy it for me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No one else will buy it for me and I dont want to spend my money. But when I walk past the shop they have a taster thing going on the chocolate I like but not the new chocolate so I go in and have some chocolate but It tastes sourish because I cant get what I want and other people can.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A few days later they have the taster of the choclate that I want one piece only but its still better than nothing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

outcome one: That was nice but I still like the other chocolate more

 

 

 

outcome two: That was the best but I dont want to spend money on it when the other one is cheaper

 

 

 

outcome three: That was terrible Im glad I didn't spend money on it

 

 

 

outcome four: That was really good and I want more

 

 

 

outcome five: That was really good but I dont want to spend money but my friend is so I should

 

 

 

outcome six: That was really good but If I have more then I cant have something else

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So That means most of the times It will not pull them in but If they have the taster its always in the back of their head. While there trying to mine coal or trying to do a quest and they think the hally would help but its members only.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its there telling them to update, Its one of the reason the update board is there the first thing you see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All of them say 'come you know you want to Its better over there'

[Raichase]

 

 

 

So That means most of the times It will not pull them in but If they have the taster its always in the back of their head. While there trying to mine coal or trying to do a quest and they think the hally would help but its members only.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its there telling them to update, Its one of the reason the update board is there the first thing you see.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

All of them say 'come you know you want to Its better over there'

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Excellent. Thankyou for proving my point. You get a taster of "The Full Game" when you play F2P. Some bits you like, and want more of, other bits you don't like.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In fact, your example just destroyed your own logic and reasoning, whilst strengthening mine. You mentioned nothing that would refute the point that F2P *is* the taster you mentioned, while P2P is the full version.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Good to see you finally have some sense in you...

[Ishbar]

I kind of didn't like this idea after three or four posts. I realized that there was many flaws in my idea and I will take the flames as they come for my stupidity. At least i've had better than this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Though if all this is turning to is an all out flame war I can only ask that this topic be locked.

[archimage_a]

So you believe that is someone can'y buy something they should never get a chance to see the whole thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its abit like eating outside a weight loss clinic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They get their one day, thats it then they can see what full game is like. Instead of 'oh your poor well Im not so its not my problem'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides it would shut them up.

[Dude_B]

I disagree with the diamond armour as a whole, however I am not going into the f2p should or should not debate. I DO however like the idea of an armour that can restrict the use of certain prayers. If an armour is so fabulous, a sacrifice like that sounds excellent. That seems at first thought, to be the thing to balance the game. I have not had a long think about it, but I would like to know if anyone can think of any reasons against this prayer negating armour.

[archimage_a]

What about (after weather comes out) lighting armour comes out that kills the attacker and you. As a last resort...

[Ishbar]

Oh yes! and then a spell called auto steal where you can rob people from their banks, and then Jagex gives out free Phats and RS mils, and candy too! Yeah what about that! :roll:

[archimage_a]

good idea... lets add ray gunes that kill anything and everything in 1 shot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Better yet give out the game code so people can edit it in their own way

[Outsanity]

So you believe that is someone can'y buy something they should never get a chance to see the whole thing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Its abit like eating outside a weight loss clinic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They get their one day, thats it then they can see what full game is like. Instead of 'oh your poor well Im not so its not my problem'.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Besides it would shut them up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Clearly you haven't thought this through. A weight loss clinic may or may not give out free samples...but if they did, they wouldn't say "Here, take our ENTIRE supply of food so that you can experience the whole thing, and then buy the whole thing for real!"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

No...they give you a sample of one or two of the foods (maybe) and then ask if you want to try the rest by buying it. If you're too stingy to cough up the money, then they are allowed to be stingy also and not give you more food.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I mean, come on...think about what you're saying before you say it. It's like saying that because "only" movie trailers play on television, that they should just let you see the whole movie without going into the theatres and paying to see it...because you're not sure if you'll like it or not. No...I don't think so.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If we gave you free members things, you'd say "Oh, well I have all I wanted now so there basically is no more need to buy members" and Jagex would have just lost another 5 dollars...it's all about money. And if you haven't the business to pay the money, then Jagex shouldn't have to have the business to let you in. :wink:

[archimage_a]

Fair enough I mean its a nice idea but just won't happen. Like a lot of things, they are nice but won't happen because of money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although 1 day as a member doesn't sound like it would change the world, It could.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lotto would be nice... not that I'm suggestion the idea... unless you like it

[Genesiss]

 

 

 

We do not "whine" about how f2p gets updates. Quite frankly, if we get updates, thats good enough for us. It doesn't really matter who else recives the benifits.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Understand that JageX is a buisiness. Not a charity. As a buisiness, it must have it's attractions to attract customers. JageX offers gameplay for FREE. What more can they offer to people who actually pay? UPDATES.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And I can't stress this harder...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ONE MORE UPDATE TO F2P EQUALS ONE LESS ATTRACTION TO OFFER WHEN PEOPLE SWITCH TO P2P!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Understand that. With your logical sence, it's easily possible. :roll:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i cant agree more with you, its supposed to make Want to get more benifits, and whats with the 5 Dollar, or what ever, i know for some its hard to pay but still , they made it prety easy to pay.

 

 

 

so idk whats the problem, but i gues we are drifting off of the subject.. :P

[Outsanity]

Fair enough I mean its a nice idea but just won't happen. Like a lot of things, they are nice but won't happen because of money.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Although 1 day as a member doesn't sound like it would change the world, It could.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A lotto would be nice... not that I'm suggestion the idea... unless you like it

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oooh...you just struck an idea within me! Perhaps, twice every year, jagex can randomly choose a free player with OVER 10 million exp, and grant them free members for a year. I mean, obviously if they've got 10 million exp, they aren't a new player, and they sure aren't a noob...because that kind of exp is harder to obtain on f2p...this, in my opinion, deems them worthy of free members for a year...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

...but, as I said, only if it happened to two or so people each year.

[archimage_a]

That is so much better than my lotto idea. You are good