Draconic Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 I am currently 58k exp from 80 Slayer. How long would 80-85 slayer take? I have hellhounds, iron dragons, and steel dragons blocked. I'm not sure what else to block. Greater demons aren't that bad with wild dogs, wyverns are profitable and way easier than everyone says, ditto with terrorbirds, Goraks are fast, and I like gems, so... I also only use a cannon on black demons. They are faaar too slow without one. Nothing else, as I am not that rich. I do have a slayer helm and slayer rings. I am currently using a whip, fire cape, amulet of fury, dragon boots, slayer helm, Explorer's ring, rune defender, and torag's top and bottom. Would using Super Sets and praying +10% att and str actually make my 15%, 10% or ?25%? faster? So, how long wil this take me, and what else should I block? Stats are in sig. A, S, and D are also all 86, so you know. When you go feather dragon god, you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 You may not be rich, but I STRONGLY RECOMMEND cannoning anyway. It's not a matter of how much money you have, it's a matter of how much money you can MAKE. For example, dagannoths with a cannon will cost ~200k and take 20 minutes. Without a cannon, it will make roughly 50 minutes but at no cost. You are therefore paying 200k to save 30 minutes of time, which means if you can make over 400k an hour (ridiculously easy) then you should cannon dagannoths. Even with a cannon, you will end up profiting in the end. Here's the task list with their speeds: Dagannoths: 80k Bloodvelds: 56k (up to 59k with Steel Titan) Warped Terrorbirds: 51k Scabarites: 50k Suqahs: 50k Aberrant Spectres: 46k (up to 48k with Steel Titan) Black Demons (range or halberd + cannon): 40k Goraks: 37k Kalphites: 36k Fire Giants (melee + cannon): 35k Dark Beasts: 36k (1k to 2k less if you need to do 2 trips) Dust Devils: 28k (up to 33k with Steel Titan) Spiritual Mages: 25k (up to 27k with Steel Titan) Abyssal Demons: 25k Gargoyles: 25k Skeletal Wyverns: 24k (1k to 2k less if you have to do 2 trips) Nechryaels: 24k (up to 27k with Steel Titan) Waterfiends: 23k (up to 26k with Steel Titan) Black Dragons: 23k (baby black dragons) Hellhounds: 22k (1k to 5k more if you pick up fewer charms) Greater Demons: 21k Aquanites: 20k Iron Dragons: 17k (up to 19k if you have dragon slayer gloves) Steel Dragons: 14k Mithril Dragons: 9k Remember you will not get these rates unless you pray piety, use the best gear, best familiars, and have maxed stats, but it should tell you (if you use the most efficient killing methods) which tasks will be the fastest and which should be the slowest. You have Irons, Steels, and Hells blocked. I would block Aquanites next. Miths are only assigned in 4-7, so they are not a problem, so Aquas are the next slowest thing you have unblocked. Remember that you will average 24 slayer points per task if you always use Duradel. So that means every 3 tasks, you can cancel roughly 2 times. Know this, and use this fact to cancel the slower tasks that you get. That means only the top 1/3 of this list should be the tasks you do if you want to maximize your slayer xp/hour. The rest of them you should cancel, since you will have enough points to do so. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cptbaker08 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 As for the Dag task. You can also do them in the CT and make money and some crimsons. And it takes about 40-50 mins. Even faster if you use familiars, piety/str prayers, and super pots. You also make money after the cost of prayer potions. As for the time it takes, it depends on how much you slay. I was stuck in a bad task loop from 80-85 slayer, so i got very few of the good tasks. But i will say maybe 100 tasks? Not to sure as its been so long. And using Potions will make a huge of a difference at a small price. Prayer is different. If you do pray on tasks i suggest to change Torags legs to Verac's Skirt for the +4 prayer. The only thing you lose is 4 range def, which you don't really need for slayer. [hide=Drops]Slayer:Draconic Visage x3, Abyssal Whip x23, Dark Bow x3, Dragon Platelegs x3, Dragon Boots x40, Dragon Plateskirt x4, Shield Left Half x3, Dragon Medium Helms x10GWD:CS: Zamorakian Spear x2, Zamorak Hilt x1, Bandos Chestplate x1, Sara Sword x1DKs: Dragon Hatchet x3 Beserker Ring x1[/hide][hide=Completed Goals]Achieved April 26, 2009Achieved Sept. 15, 2009Achieved Nov. 21, 2009 Jan. 10, 2010 Achieved Mar. 5, 2010[/hide][hide=Goals][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconic Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 Alright, thanks. I suppose I will block Aquanites. I would like the occasional Amulet of Ranging drop, but after 4 tasks I've only gotten one. They also take a lot of resources to do, with little profit unless I'm lucky enough to get an Amulet. Even with a Bunyip, its scrolls, and Enhanced Excalibur and an inventory of food I still have a fair bit of trouble keepng up with their intense accuracy. I've decided to cannon the following tasks: Aberrant Spectres Black Demons Mutated Bloodvelds Kalphites Suqahs A mere 5/something tasks, my bank can totally handle that. Dagganoths are already afkable, and even though non-cannon takes 250% longer it's still a fine speed for me. Fire giants are also afkable in the Chaos Tunnels. Dust Devils are annoying to cannon, as in the Smokey Well they're very spread out and in single-way combat. Goraks are a very fast task with or without. Using the Swmp area, Scarabites only take me 20 minutes. Also, would using +10% att and def prayer really speed my tasks up by 10%? Or is the math a bit more complicated than that? EDIT: I will be using Super Sets minues Def (enhanced excalibur). The speed far otuweighs the cost. Dagannoths in the CT can help pay for cannonballs, thanks guys, this is really helpful. I have an offer in the GE for a skirt right now. Also a note: I make my own prayer potions, with Ranarr's from drops and a healthy supply of Snape Grass from WF's. I fish my own monks as well. I'm not questioning you guys on this, as I like self-sustainability more than effeciency. I do but cannonballs, of course. When you go feather dragon god, you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 For many people, I suggest training with Superhuman Strength, +10% strength prayer, on at all times during melee tasks. This drains prayer half as fast as the +15% strength prayer but still gives 2/3 of the bonus, making it quite nice for training. Obviously, you should use prayer pots to restore prayer when needed. If you are using the super set re-pot time of 10 minutes, you will probably use approximately 2 prayer pots (4) for each super set (4). If you think Superhuman Strength is a waste of money, look at the math. I'll assume Superhuman Strength drains around 440 prayer points per hour; this is at somewhere around a +7 to +11 prayer bonus. That translates into about 13.3 doses of prayer potion if you have 99 prayer. Those are worth about 26.7k, assuming 2k per dose. Now, it might make sense to get 10% faster xp, but that's not actually correct because you have to consider that because you will kill the monsters faster, you will spend a greater proportion of your time running between monsters and picking up drops. I will assume that using Superhuman Strength makes you 1/12 (7.5%) faster. If so, you will be able to complete an hour's worth of training in 3350 seconds. Therefore, if you have 99 prayer and a typical prayer bonus, for every hour you save by using Superhuman Strength, it costs 380k in prayer potions; under these conditions, you should use Superhuman Strength if you value your time at over 380k per hour. What if you don't have 99 prayer? Here are some more caculations: At 85 prayer, 15.5 doses of prayer potion are used per hour. Therefore, if you have 85 prayer and value time at over 450k per hour, use Superhuman Strength. At 70 prayer, 18.8 doses of prayer potion are used per hour. Therefore, if you have 70 prayer and value time at over 540k per hour, use Superhuman Strength. At 55 prayer, 24 doses of prayer potion are used per hour. Therefore, if you have 55 prayer and value time at over 690k per hour, use Superhuman Strength. I recommend cannoning Scarabites. The swamp ones are pathetic compared to the "dangerous" location. You only use like 500-600 cannonballs and the task will take 6 minutes. You get a lot of crimson charms and have a chance to break even. Also consider cannoning Warped Terrorbirds. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconic Posted September 5, 2009 Author Share Posted September 5, 2009 Thanks again. So, 500-600 for the "dangerous" Scarabites? Assuming the max of 199, how many cannonballs will the 5 above tasks take? Verac's skirt has been bought. Actually, I haven't had a Terrorbird task in ~40 tasks, and I'm at 75 consecutive tasks so far. When you go feather dragon god, you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaaps1 Posted September 5, 2009 Share Posted September 5, 2009 Thanks again. So, 500-600 for the "dangerous" Scarabites? Assuming the max of 199, how many cannonballs will the 5 above tasks take? Verac's skirt has been bought. Actually, I haven't had a Terrorbird task in ~40 tasks, and I'm at 75 consecutive tasks so far. Yes, roughly 500-600 for those. However, if you use any alternate location, you will need A LOT more for some reason... None of those tasks you listed should take more than 2k cannonballs for 199, exception are bloodvelds. Take 3k for those. Black demons may also require 3k. Suqahs and Scarabites, due to their small task size, never require more than 700 or so cannonballs. But those are at my stats with my slaying style. I would take 100-500 more cannonballs for your first task of those, then adjust from there. ~It's Super Effective! (The Zaaps Blog)~My YouTube Channel, where you get to watch me go around and make a fool out of myself and all comp capersGuides:~Yeah I wrote them once~Suggestions:~Yeah I made those once~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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