Karmastocracy

So when will the HYT Clan begin anew?

So to recap: Runescape Servers run into a brick wall. Avast update makes everything on the web register as a virus. Gooooooood day to be on the Internet. Yup. Things are going smooth.

:P I'm going to go ahead and start Humidifying, cause from what I've been hearing, it sounds like there's still a strong market. I've been checking out the xp I'd get for casting all 100k, and I just can't wait to get my first Achievement cape... so I've gone ahead and already placed some large clay & rune orders!

HYT I've got a very simple question today, I'm pondering whether to invest in the "Humidify" magic training method specifically using clay. Buying 100k of regular clay won't be a problem, neither will the Astral runes... but I'm not sure how strong the market is for soft clay right now. All I'm wondering is whether you guys have used this method recently, and been able to sell your soft clay quickly (within about 2-3 days.) Thanks for reading, I look forward to finding out if I can start training my magic tonight!

My mind is never made up. I'm always open to change and a new opinion. Change is invigorating! If you don't accept new beliefs, you become complacent and lazy, your life atrophies. Debates lead to new questions and new solutions! New beliefs force us to experiment and adapt, that's how we learn and grow. But onto the GS discussion... This is exactly what I've been trying to say, only said (much) more succinctly. I'm not anti-GS or pro-GS by any means. Frankly, Godswords are unnecessarily expensive, and not worth it to most people. However cost does not wholly define value, and they are still good weapons if not the best in the game.

It seems I'm building the great wall 'o text brick by brick... haha You cannot talk about using the GS in any situation, then immediately redefine the situation as being only Saradomin GWD. I don't care about the GWD, because that's irrelevant to lower-middle level players who we've been discussing. Far from there being "no reason" why a player would own a ZGS if they don't plan on doing Sara GWD, there are literally thousands of reasons why a player may want to own the ZGS. Any combat training on any creature in the game (save the wildy) is fair game. You still don't get the situation we're talking about. Sara GS has decent enough stats to train against most creatures in the game, and the reason one may choose to use it would be to get the most out of the extra prayer and LP the special would give. There isn't any need to any of this, none of this is necessary, but it's an excellent way to recover health for free while training combat skills. The extra prayer is just a very nice bonus to use while training, further lengthening the time of each session, and reducing the need to bank at all. Since you mentioned prayer pots, why not! If you've got a high enough prayer level where it's more efficient to stock up on some prayer pots instead of a few slots of food, then go for it. Relative worth is defined by your values, if you value experience over money then they a certain one may be worth it to you, or may not be. Needless to say that's a personal decision. I never talked about "accuracy" or "claimed" anything. Where you referring to someone else, or what did you mean? You should never need a Godsword in any situation ever. However there are tons, and tons of situations where they are useful, and fit the bill nicely. The special attacks make some basic leveling easier, and can make grinding that much more painless. Your values are your own, and at higher levels in RS the Godswords should become obsolete. It's probably fair to assume you've hit this point eh?

Nope (Loved the TF reference) They are slow, and lack in power compared to other weapons. They do less damage per second than a whip, and you can't wear a shield. Their specials are easily replaced too. Bandos GodSword can be replaced by a Statius warhammer, Zamorak GodSword can be replaced with an ice barrage, Saradomin GodSword's healing abilities are weak compared to eee, bunyip or unicorn, and the prayer recovery can be done with an ancient mace. Armadyl godsword is easily replaced with korasi's or Dragon claws. Except for the ice barrage, you can purchase or earn the alternatives quite easily, even if you only have the attack requirement needed for a GodSword. GS do not "lack in power" when compared to most other weapons in the game. In my (full) quote I said "there may be some low percentage of other weapons (lets say 10% or less) which are more powerful" - Bandos GodSword can be replaced by a Statius warhammer, no qualms there. - Zamorak GodSword cannot be replaced with an ice barrage. Are you serious? Ice Barrage requires a magic level of 94, I don't understand why we're making a leap and assuming most lower-mid players trying to train their combat levels would have 94 magic. - Saradomin GodSword's healing abilities are weak compared to eee, but you'd have to complete all of the elite seer's village challenges for a better healing effect, and it's still a much weaker weapon. Also, the prayer recovery by the ancient mace would mean you carry it in addition to a different primary just for the prayer recovery special. Sure you can carry a whip, eee & ancient mace in your inventory instead of the Sara GS, but that's extremely inefficient and not very practical. - There's a time and a place for the Armadyl godsword, but I too consider it a waste of resources. Still it hits higher than either korasi's or Dragon claws, so I don't think you could "easily" replace it with either. The Godswords are great weapons, but not the best in the game. You're defining "powerful" as "best" which is not what anyone has been saying on this thread. Godswords in RS are powerful in the classic definition of the word.

At your combat level you don't need healing, and you could do much better than a GS for training. You're missing my point if you think this applies to you.

Whip/ee or eee is better Yeah, these are just semantics and there's basically no point in arguing past that point. I already admitted they are partially useful for some people at TD's. Still, I am saying they are "useless" to show exactly how limited these scenarios are. GS have like one main reasonable use, and that's about it. Saying that they're useful gives other people the impression that a GS is a reasonable purchase for a noob, which it is not. I'm baffled why you continually state your opinion as fact, that's not a very intelligent or persuasive way to discuss anything. Misusing the word "useful" is definitely not semantics... you understand exactly what he's trying to saying, and he makes a very valid point which refutes your "useless" argument. Giving other people the impression that a GS has "very limited use" is illogical since they make up some of the best weapons in the game. While there may be some low percentage of other weapons (lets say 10% or less) which are more powerful, the GS have special attacks which are unique in Runescape. When you dismissed my original comment about the Sara Godsword being a powerful training tool for a lower to middle-tier player, you vaguely said the whip/ee is "better." Since the Saradomin Godsword's special recovers a minimum of 100 LP, it is an excellent way for players attempting to train their combat levels up because it can allow for far longer training sessions, using much less restocking time. Hence, it can allow for more efficient leveling, in certain situations of course. The Armadyl GS in particular also has a use in PvP, where high hits reign supreme. Godswords are extremely useful in the eyes of most RS players. Granted, if you have the stats, you can use other higher level equipment. They also have their uses!

The Sara Godsword is a great weapon for lower-ish levels to train their combat up, and many higher level players without the Dung. requirements for chaotic weaponry.

Well that's an excellent point. I wish I had known BKQ had no randoms about 20 magic levels ago! This is a fairly big deal to me, as Soul Wars can amass a large amount of people (causing lag on my laptop) and is the only place I thought had anti-random properties. However it is still possible the enchanted valley only has less randoms, not a complete lack of them. That's why I created the poll/thread, so I could find out if anyone has ever had a random in this area.