Thanks, I was getting the completely wrong impression then when you were telling us all of your java skills, when none of us care. No one ever bragged about java skills, we dont even write any scripts in java. He used javascripters testing their skill as an example of how someone might use it to cheat at runescape. And to the person above me, you didnt earn crap with a lvl 70 something main :P. I got a legit 105.