While his delivery might not be the most apropriate, he is right. Those kinds of images would never fly as things on shirts. That's the kind of thing that you see and say "Wow, that's a crappy shirt, must've been a newb that made it." (no offense to anyone)... I'll take on both responses. Kngkyle, as far as I knew no one ever though Crate was a jerk because he was pretty nice to everyone. I am still that person but more opiniated now. I'm quite addicted to this board so I can't really leave but I really don't like the way some of the users are here. Majority of them don't take the time to learn design at all. They open up Photoshop, do some filters, and then think they earned the prize. I tried to help this guy out and he just kept getting on my case and ignoring me. Never called him an idiot or made a deragatory comment as far as I remember. I see nothing wrong with people trying, but if you're gonna post anything you shoudl be able to take what people say to heart and think about doing it. I sucked once and still do imo. But I still like to think I know what I'm doing Wyrm, you're right about me not taking the right approach but it had to be noticed. Thanks for agreeing. I may nto be buying the designs but I'd still like for User to get the most bang for his buck.