Ugh..if it's a pixel sig, why does the program matter? I hate when people ask that... Hey Ryan, still here i see :) Nice. Well...the flame columns from the vulcanos don't realy smell like pixel to me...more or less like the brother story :roll: Yet in most of cases that kind of request should be answered with a nova missile :) (from a Raist's post) about the shading i don't realy think you can teach him much :P :oops: umm... jeppoz sir... teach me ... jks lol :P yeh u and ur bro should make some pixels u take the 3./4 of the money jks lol split it :P