Aasiwat

>telling people on 200m skills thread to vote yes on something that would render 200m skills completely useless

Yea you're right. I did just that and I'm very happy with my life now. I won't hold an anti-jagex speech here but I chose a good time to stop worrying about xp, the only thing that kept me hooked, as now you can get fast free xp left and right and it's absolutely nothing like when I last played. Slayer has also effectively been abolished the way I liked it. I got a month of members for some credit I had to use anyway and I'm mostly trying to do the quests that have been released in the 1.5 years I haven't been playing.

I actually feel sorry for people like Water for the sheer volume of Jagex'd that they just have gotten. I no longer care about my hiscores from a personal viewpoint, but it's still completely ridiculous, and like many other people I have made my thoughts known in no uncertain terms on the HLF. No hall of fame ever gets cleared when someone stops being actively involved and you would be stupid to think otherwise, or naively believe that the reason is to "give everyone in the active community a chance". Well, I certainly won't be blackmailed into paying any sum of money to keep my ranks there whether it was one cent or one thousand, I just hope that this will finally make people realise that it's not worth it to slave achievements on this game where you will no longer exist once you stop paying your monthly fee for any reason..

Clearly that's what I meant, all I'm saying is there is no need to encourage people to do something that's affecting them negatively. I am someone who likes changing people step by step, and I was able to stop so easily when I realised I played too much because I let a number of things affect me, not really because RS was going to bring me down when I didn't care much for the last couple years. But go ahead and patronise all you want, I was always anti-taking-rs-too-seriously and laughed at the talk about ticks and efficiency. Occasionally when I play with the thought of casually playing RS I quickly run into the following problems: 1) I wouldn't have time for it anyway 2) It was fun in 2006, not 2011

hope not tbh I don't know about you, but I would normally encourage people to get rid of their addictions. I know Tg in real life, he is absolutely a great bloke and one of these people who is just too good to be playing RS, and I'm sure he knows that :P

Try not to delve into that. I just heard somewhere that happy people can be separated from unhappy people by the fact that unhappy people are always stuck thinking about their past, and realised how true this is. I know I've myself been happier than ever during the past month or so, despite the fact I have difficult exams to prepare for, and in retrospect I find the mistakes and bad decisions I make in life always function as lessons that had to be learnt before finding the right path. Also, good decision. That's why I couldn't just keep members solely to get 200m farming or something, had to get it out of my system completely.

Very good call, now stick to it. =D> My p2p just ran out yesterday, and you won't see any more xp gains from me either.

I spoke with Jdelacroix at Runefest and I'm fairly certain he's male and American. :mrgreen:

Military service is compulsory in Finland, I haven't had the chance to talk to him about how he is dodging it but if he for some reason doesn't manage to get past it then he could be facing a little trouble, otherwise if he doesn't have to worry about money and housing I trust he will make it, his process so far is without parallel among the rest of the players.

I'm going to make a small announcement now that I've held onto the most overall xp title for a year. I haven't found Runescape so interesting for a while anymore, due to a combination of the way this game is heading, overplaying, and different things to set my mind on. There was a time some years ago (around when I was going for 200m strength without rapier, turmoil, extreme pots, effigies) when I thought I could keep playing this possibly until 200m in all skills. The downfall started for me when Jagex started pumping out the abovementioned assets, culminating in the effigy update that devalued incredible amounts of work for people who had been playing since before that. Since then, Jagex' failing efforts to gain more paying members with bonus xp weekends, free trade and such, eventually leading the way to the RS we see today, where more than half of the accounts online at any given time are bots. My main point isn't even crying about Jagex though. Over the years I've overplayed myself, sometimes at the cost of more useful activities, but burning out in general happens eventually, and these days I certainly feel that getting out of my room is a higher priority than playing a game where I've done everything there is to do but still keep going at it. I stopped exercising for a few years because I've always been healthy with or without it, but I've started up going to the gym and running again since last summer and now that I don't feel compelled to log into RS, I'll also be sure to make the most out of the outdoor sports activities over the warm season. It may seem like a far-fetched concept if you've been sitting on your ass your entire life, but there is nothing quite like the pleasure from exercise when you are on the right track. So I am no longer going to be focusing on RS, I've currently settled with my daily tree run and a bit of afking ivy, which is merely a way to pass some time while doing other things on the computer and I really couldn't care less about the xp anymore. With summer comes my severe inactivity as I go spend more time outside and travel, after which I'll begin with my new studies in the autumn and hopefully a new direction in my life. My previous studies turned out not to be the thing for me at all, which is partially why I ended up using RS as a scapegoat. There are always underlying reasons for people grinding this game so excessively - nobody does it purely because it's fun and exciting, not for longer than a certain period of time. Going by the general sentiment I've gotten from many people over time, many more of your 'contenders' could also eventually be expected to join the quitters. I am thinking about still keeping members until I can reach 200m farming (roughly a year from now assuming I don't skip farm runs) although if I no longer feel like logging on even for 15 minutes I'll just stop whenever. I will certainly continue hanging out in chats to keep in touch with my amazing clan, many of whom I've met in real life anyway. So yeah, that's it for now. I'm not quitting straight away - I just wanted to post this to clear some things up and hopefully add my two cents to get some other people reconsider their position on how seriously they want to take the game, which seems to reach quite unbelievable proportions when browsing through this topic, for example.

Ye but I'm playing Minigolf with him right now to slow him down :thumbsup: (Kidding about the last part)

He is 38938549386934869597854586934869358753987397835987987395783597 aka Lts too emuslayer ninja To avoid going too far off-topic, Suomi is currently the only person I can realistically see getting 5b (unless something forces him to stop in the coming few years). If exp still gets significantly faster this situation could change, but many players cannot realistically say 200m all is their goal due to uncertainty when it comes to real-life situations and the fact that burning out does happen.

I strongly support this notion

As requested: "Highest Lowest skill" top. Season has recently reached 20m base, few changes otherwise. 1. 36,481,956 : Zarfot (Fishing) 2. 28,395,203 : Allie (Fishing) 3. 26,120,686 : Squall (Agility) 4. 25,035,471 : Zephymastyx (Hunter) 5. 23,522,395 : Rach (Agility) 6. 23,437,492 : Kingduffy (Construction) 7. 22,792,750 : Da Broman1 (Prayer) 8. 22,055,359 : Auss (Hunter) 9. 21,787,067 : Pope712 (Mining) 10. 21,472,122 : Elvis (Fishing) 11. 20,845,577 : Mrs Tabs (Prayer) 12. 20,676,131 : Zero Max (Prayer) 13. 20,524,067 : Kngkyle (Mining) 14. 20,476,552 : GM (Prayer) 15. 20,455,565 : Svc-Shh279 (Prayer) 16. 20,352,916 : Critchers Uk (Prayer) 17. 20,091,801 : Season (Agility) 18. 20,072,840 : Dardan (Smithing) 19. 20,029,340 : Supersongoko (Slayer) 20. 20,004,558 : Toadkiller D (Slayer) Virtual levels: 1. 2941 : Allar 2. 2915 : Zarfot 3. 2910 : Elias 4. 2904 : Telmomarques 5. 2902 : Elvis 6. 2879 : Jdelacroix 7. 2877 : Kingduffy 8. 2851 : Lan 9. 2834 : S U O M I 10. 2828 : Tezz 11. 2818 : Pope712 12. 2817 : Season 13. 2804 : 8 No Lifer 14. 2803 : Dapledo 15. 2801 : Da Broman1 16. 2799 : Kngkyle 17. 2793 : Green098 18. 2793 : Number1 Boss 19. 2790 : Erw J 20. 2784 : 1 Eye Viper 21. 2783 : Tg 22. 2783 : Piddy10 23. 2783 : Merlin Emrys 24. 2779 : Squall 25. 2778 : Paperbag 26. 2768 : Auss 27. 2764 : Bryce 28. 2762 : Brad Ownesu 29. 2760 : Allie 30. 2758 : Hurt Goat

Yeah I saw that. I'm actually quite liking being able to go under the radar. Even though according to Jagex I am maxed lol. I'll get 50m pray tomorrow and might try 50m hunt afterwards for 20 50m skills. Don't have very high interest in RS atm though.

Resource is worth it for steels in particular, nevertheless I'd always go for the cannonable option (I still need it to equalise slay:hp too) PS Lapalok assigns ices, although I believe they're less common from him.

I don't have the actual formula in my hands but I'll throw in the post-99 levels Level 99 - 13,034,431 xp Level 100 - 14,391,160 xp Level 101 - 15,889,109 xp Level 102 - 17,542,976 xp Level 103 - 19,368,992 xp Level 104 - 21,385,073 xp Level 105 - 23,611,006 xp Level 106 - 26,068,632 xp Level 107 - 28,782,069 xp Level 108 - 31,777,943 xp Level 109 - 35,085,654 xp Level 110 - 38,737,661 xp Level 111 - 42,769,801 xp Level 112 - 47,221,641 xp Level 113 - 52,136,869 xp Level 114 - 57,563,718 xp Level 115 - 63,555,443 xp Level 116 - 70,170,840 xp Level 117 - 77,474,828 xp Level 118 - 85,539,082 xp Level 119 - 94,442,737 xp Level 120 - 104,273,167 xp Level 121 - 115,126,838 xp Level 122 - 127,110,260 xp Level 123 - 140,341,028 xp Level 124 - 154,948,977 xp Level 125 - 171,077,457 xp Level 126 - 188,884,740 xp Level 127 - 208,545,572 xp

Thought I'd post a virtual highscores update, another listing that might be interesting to look at as it favours well-rounded players, some like Dapledo, Squall and Allie who may not be that high on xp or rank scores. To clarify the virtual totals are calculated taking into account post-99 levels in all skills, extrapolating the same formula all the way up to 126 which would be the highest possible virtual level at 188.884m xp. The highest attainable virtual total is 126*25=3150. Virtual Rank / Rank by XP / Virtual Level / Name 1. (1.) 2935 : Allar 2. (7.) 2915 : Zarfot 3. (6.) 2900 : Elias 4. (5.) 2897 : Elvis 5. (3.) 2894 : Telmomarques 6. (2.) 2874 : Jdelacroix 7. (12.) 2874 : Kingduffy 8. (13.) 2851 : Lan 9. (4.) 2832 : Drumgun 10. (9.) 2824 : S U O M I 11. (8.) 2823 : Tezz 12. (19.) 2817 : Season 13. (18.) 2814 : Pope712 14. (30.) 2801 : Dapledo 15. (15.) 2797 : 8 No Lifer 16. (26.) 2797 : Da Broman1 17. (22.) 2795 : Kngkyle 18. (14.) 2790 : Green098 19. (16.) 2790 : Erw J 20. (25.) 2788 : Eight Man 21. (23.) 2783 : Merlin Emrys 22. (24.) 2780 : 1 Eye Viper 23. (21.) 2779 : Piddy10 24. (17.) 2777 : Tg 25. (59.) 2777 : Squall 26. (10.) 2769 : Paperbag 27. (33.) 2767 : Auss 28. (20.) 2764 : Bryce 29. (38.) 2761 : Brad Ownesu 30. (90.) 2757 : Allie Edit: The "highest worst skill" top as of yesterday, thanks to Rach who maintains these lists on HLF. 1 : 36,481,956 : Zarfot (Fishing) 2 : 28,379,621 : Allie (Fishing) 3 : 26,095,375 : Squall (Agility) 4 : 25,034,446 : Zephymastyx (Hunter) 5 : 23,309,254 : Rach (Agility) 6 : 22,978,784 : Kingduffy (Construction) 7 : 22,596,821 : Da Broman1 (Prayer) 8 : 21,680,537 : Auss (Mining) 9 : 21,227,122 : Elvis (Fishing) 10 : 21,134,362 : Pope712 (Construction) 11 : 20,725,569 : Mrs Tabs (Prayer) 12 : 20,637,360 : Zero Max (Prayer) 13 : 20,518,007 : Kngkyle (Mining) 14 : 20,445,829 : GM (Prayer) 15 : 20,434,361 : Svc-Shh279 (Prayer) 16 : 20,337,658 : Critchers uk (Prayer) 17 : 20,068,840 : Dardan (Smithing) 18 : 20,005,825 : Supersongoko (Slayer) 19 : 20,004,558 : Toadkiller D (Slayer) 20 : 19,805,954 : Telmomarques (Agility)

Yeah should do but your access to HLF has to be reinstated manually and that tends to take a while sometimes if Mat isn't around

I believe it's the date of expiry of the offense from your account history. But yeah it's stupid, I've said stuff 10 times worse than that.

That is part of the game and will happen. There WILL be an update that makes RC 200-300k xp an hour eventually. Dont fool yourself into thinking otherwise, why we train is for prestige/rank/fun now rather then later. People who got 200m using historic methods have their names cemented on the front page of the high scores already and people taking advantage of new methods may get 200m much faster, but they will never have a spot on the first page if people already filled up those spots using slow methods.Im probably rambling but I hope I made it clear why it is worthwhile to train now even when things will inevitably get even easier.yeh thats why its kinda dumb to talk about efficient based on ingame time only the most efficient thing to do ingame is to just wait for updates to make everything faster.yeh all 120s will devalue 200ms if they ever did that and mmost people wouldnt go for 200m even in skills they liked cuz it would be much faster to gain overall ranks with othe skills rather than overall expso people would get 104m exp in easy skills instead of 200m in easy easy skills liek cooking These people who did use the historic methods will also be the first ones to realise how pointless it is to slave away for a game that will eventually devalue your efforts by 5x. The only reasons why I play now are for fun and as a distraction while there's nothing else to do; I can already play half as much as I used to and get the same xp as I was getting a few years ago. I liked cementing ranks on certain skill hiscores by getting 200m's even if it meant that I lost certain advantages doing so (even that still CAN change though if you ever happen to get temp banned because of some mistake and them not caring enough to restore your ranks afterwards, Lan lost his front page fletching rank that way) But yeah, securing 200m ranks was pretty much the only thing that made me care about them, I've kinda been going for 120s rather than more 200m's for a while (just about to get my 14th, and I "only" have 6 200m's). Taking into account future updates, it'll be more efficient to train skills evenly anyway, working your way around the Jagex timebomb. The most annoying update to me by far has been effigies, I already had 90m slayer xp before they came out so I missed out on roughly 100m potential skill xp from them, including at least 40m rc. Much, much more annoying than a single skill being sped up. To be fair, I currently have no more 200m's planned (except farming that is pretty much a D&D and will take a year) unless I really can't stop slaying after 120 combat base

Regarding the donation business, I don't see what's so bad about it - personally I'd never ask for donations (and wouldn't feel good about accepting any), but it's really not bad compared to something like the Ring of Wealth glitch where people made billions and no action was taken. Also, you don't even have to actually merch all the time anymore to make substantial profits; it's good enough if you just catch a few good updates, buy stuff as soon as an upgrade for an item is announced and sell for profits. Money is very easy to come by now and the "validity of hiscores" has been compromised by everything being based on money for a while, so to speak. Also, asking for donations requires interaction with a lot of random players/fanboys and keeping up a sort of a public image, which I'd personally find more stressful than just merchanting the same amount of money so I wouldn't consider donations as a way of making money for that sole reason, but it's a strategy Suomi has adopted, and a decent one at that if he can handle it.

What's up with the 6 blocks?

Mark told me at Runefest it had been planned. Seem to be taking a while though. Maybe it has something to do with the upcoming dungeoneering quest that has also been hinted at, although I think extra binds were mentioned as a reward.

Or maybe they secretly care but won't admit to it, who knows ;) As long as they're having fun with what they're doing, it shouldn't matter. I care just about enough to not have stopped playing after Jagex clearly shifted towards making profit at all costs since MMG taking over and the Gowers (who really had a reason to be emotionally attached to the actual game) apparently stepping down as directors, most updates started to be aimed at gaining one time subs (that will not be permanent, as shown by website traffic engines) instead of keeping a healthy game for existing player base. What ever happened to the Gowers' zero bot and cheat tolerance policy, and just the general ideas of gaining a temporary subscription spike with bonus xp weekends, wilderness etc that just die down the next month but leave the game in a worse state than before. They seem to have dismissed the idea of RS simply being a good game as a reason to play, and it's definitely losing the touch it once had. My play style is a lot more casual than it used to be though. I find clicking the game not a very high priority if there is something more interesting going on, I don't have any goals set within a specific time frame, I really enjoy solving Elite clues (shame they're too rare) etc.