I read this guide an though pfft but i had waterfiends as slayer and thought why not try,Im converted i was so surprised (im 134 cbl) i was out performing with faster killing and less damage (wearing dfs) than a zammy spear weilder and a sgs user there (was mace on crush of course) but if you going to use regularly needs thinking on what tasks you going to take obby weps to. note..tried sword at greater demons vs wip never noticed that much diffrence but took abit more damage with sword, but with the new improved excalibur e took care of any extra healing bunny couldnt takecare of :thumbup: