Zander, I'm assuming the stats on the runescape hiscores for the same username you have on this forum are yours. If that is the case, your stats are hardly reflective of the stats you would need to be an effective pker. Your arguments beg the question. All of them. You addressed nothing I said. They are not rules in place, they are basic decency. Let me quickly point out, again, since you don't get it, why these are in place. No safeing - Both people have a chance to come out with something, as opposed to both coming out of it emptyhanded, and in fact worse off, for having wasted their money on potions and food. Don't PJ - This is just plain rotten. Color it however you want, scream about how it doesn't say in the rules you can't do it, but the plain and simple fact is that it is incredibly disrespectful, cowardly and just generally underhanded. PKing in Junk- If you can't afford to lose it, you probably shouldn't be out there. You know, if you started saving up, instead of wasting all that money on those sharks and potions you throw down the drain, you might be able to afford the better equipment. One iteming - Again, deplorable. Sure kid, it's not in the rules, but again, it's a matter of RESPECT and DECENCY. You know what? most people who pk that advocate fighting fair, and miss the old days, Guess what? They're not out there for the damn pixels. They're out there because this is a game, and it's for fun, and it's not fun when some little idiot with a dragon dagger and nothing else comes up throwing specs at you