I'd also really like to see this 'proof' that's being talked about if someone could tell me where and what it is. EDIT - never mind, found it, strange how you always look right in front of you last lol. If you'll look verrrrry carefully you'll see it's non-members only, non-members is not runescape, it's the demo and has been said so many times, while making that book there might not be helping the situation, non-members is not the game and being a free online game with no downloads or sign-up required it's obviously accessible by these ages anyway, you can't honestly expect it to make any difference, Actively encouraging 8-12 year olds to sign up for the real game would be a violation of jagex's principles, a combonation of not having the members guide and young kids just not having the means to pay ensures this (how many parents are gonna pay monthly for a game for an 8-year old?, i've known tribes of kids younger than me grow up and i can tell you very few indeed), showing and educating them on what cannot be hidden to prepare them for later on while not affecting the serious players who pay i see no problem with. Also durial was not smart, he was a coward, sure it was tempting but it doesn't make it right, he found a loophole and exploited people with no defence for everything he could like a mugger preying on children and babies