First time posting, so be kind...heh... I'm one of the adults who play, and I've just muddled along, leveling up my skills gradually. I don't do pk and I don't often venture into the wilderness, being a wuss at heart. My son pays for my membership, and I like having the members' skills. I haven't done a lot of trading and done zero dueling. Mostly I've made my money, modest as my four and a half million is, by killing things and picking up the drops, along with picking up drops that other players don't want. (I've been compulsive about that.) So far, I'm likin' the changes. But I'm not an old player of RS. I've only been playng just over a year. I do love the added bank space. I'm sure I'll filll it, but it's a big help to me so far. I have yet to use the marketplace, but I suspect I will soon enough. So as far as I'm concerned, it's all good. I'm sorry the pk-ers feel deprived. I'm sorry the stakers feel deprived. But as I've never used any of that, I don't miss it in the least, and still find plenty to do that keeps me busy and happy. My three cents' (adjusted for inflation.) ------- Hmm, sig is munged, I'll fix it later. Starshadow