Schmo0zle

You sounds like one of those holier than thou I don't drink 'cause drinking is evil General people -_-". Why do you believe that most people aren't responsible? From what I can tell, all you've got is one experience and maybe the media to go off of (and possibly three family members, at most). Probability laws kind of require a higher sample size than that before making judgement :| . Honestly, you've never been with people who casually drink wine and beer? You might need to get out more, meet these people you assume "lower their state of existence" by having a bit of alcohol with their meals. You perceive I am "holier than thou", I do not think it. So is that a compliment, or what? You're kinda' proving my point by singling me out as "special" because I don't get bombed all the time. But, as I said before...Having a drink (as in one) with a meal is fine, it isn't alcoholism. But a lot of people go from one to 20 before they know what the hell just happened. I don't even start with one because I have no desire to drink alcohol. The entire POINT of alcohol is to get drunk...If I'm not drinking it to get drunk, why drink it? If you think it tastes good, that's your opinion. You're quite an odd person, though, since alcohol tastes horrible. :P But of course, that is MY opinion, however...It is also my opinion that anything that burns when it goes down, can harm your liver and make you black out shouldn't be ingested at all because it's PROBABLY not good for you. Yes, I am aware of the "alcohol helps your heart" stuff, but they fail to tell you that it hurts your liver regardless as well. Why are we going on and on about alcohol and drugs being bad or not? Stop trying to fool yourselves. One has been illegal for MANY years now and the other was once illegal too. The only reason alcohol is no longer illegal is for obvious monetary reasons, not good-health reasons, lol. As the beer adverts on TV say...Always drink responsibly!...But of course, they thank God for the fact that no one listens to those. :lol:

Why are you so afraid of being in an altered state of mind? When you sleep, you are experiencing an altered state of mind. Meditation is another harmless method of inducing an altered state, and so is an out of body experience. Both meditation and OBEs are regarded as spiritual experiences. That sounds stupid and irresponsible. #-o Notice my original question asked whether you have tried drinking responsibly. Apparently, you have not. You are referring to irresponsible users of drugs/alcohol. As the articles said, light to moderate drinking can be benefitial. If you drink or smoke more than you should, it can be detrimental to your health. The same applies to any activity. For example, if you lifted weights more than you should, there is a good chance that you could destroy your muscles and render them useless. Hah, that sounds pretty awful. Reminds me of a Dave Chappelle bit about how white men only talk about weed when they're high. :lol: Yes, I won't deny that being high is often an experience best suited around others who are also high. : But you talk as if laughing and "irrelevant" conversations are a bad thing. It sounds a lot like you are the one with self control issues. Myself, along with all other light to moderate users of drugs/alcohol, have enough self control to enjoy these substances responsibly. You can't seem to wrap your head around the idea of "responsible" use of certain activities or substances. I think part of the problem is that you have never tried these activities in a responsible and enjoyable setting. I've told you why I don't wish to be in an altered state of mind. It has nothing to do with being "afraid" and everything to do with wasting time in things that are not reality. Wow, my altered state of mind made me see teletubbies and pretty colors, but...Now I'm sober, and that didn't mean jack! Yea, I'd say that is a waste of time no matter how you slice it. When you sleep is different from when you take drugs. First off, you have no CHOICE but to sleep. If I did, I would choose not to sleep as well. Why? Again - it is a tremendous waste of time. We spend 1/3 or more of our lifetime sleeping. What a waste. Anyways, while sleeping, you're not in an altered state of mind...You're unconscious. It's different. Except for the first few hours where you're in REM sleep, in which case you're unconscious, paralyzed and tripping on Dimethyltryptamine, which is ironically one of the most illegal drugs in the world, but it is made in our own brains in order to induce REM sleep. When you extract it (which I know how to do, but will not discuss here for obvious reason) from things and take it, you basically are in a conscious REM state, AKA it's messing with your mind...That is an altered state of mine. However, if you're sleeping, the same happens, but you're unconscious. I think the most important point, however, is that we don't have a choice to do this. We have to. That is how it's different. When I said I drank and the eventual results are passing out, I did not mean that is what I did. I mean that's what everyone ELSE did while I sat there just feeling funny and asking myself "Why do people EVEN BOTHER?" because it was perhaps the most over-rated experience of my life. Next to Halo 2. Well, no...Halo was probably better. And you keep going on and on and on about light, moderate usage, when - again - I've already stated that most people are not responsible enough to stop at moderate and keep on truckin' into addictions without even noticing. When you have addicts in your life and see what it does - you tend to stray from even touching the stuff they're on. ;) And yes, those people I speak of are older guys and they've amounted to absolutely nothing in life, hence why I don't even wish to take the chance. I have no desire to "enhance" my state of mind by lowering my state of existence. How do I sound like someone with self control issues, again? :lol: I don't partake in these things at all!

People would likely forgo getting one because it sounds a lot like what the Bible warned you NOT to take when it was offered. Right now, they are voluntary and given as a means of tracking kidnapped/lost children and things like that. Later on this technology could easily be used to make a cashless society, hence, if you do not have one, you cannot buy nor sell, as the Bible says. It's no secret to anyone that a cashless society has been talked about and stressed many-a-time. It removed the need to constantly print and mint money in physical form, which is desirable for governments, and not having to carry said money is desirable for the people. You can go on and on about how it is possible to track you with today's technology, but the fact stands that a chip that would be both for tracking you AND for monetary usage would be far more effective and useful. Who knows? We may not even be informed that it CAN track us! Either way, I'd never take it, just 'cause of what the Bible says. I don't believe in coincidences. :P

Just a few examples to prove u wrong my friend. -Some person who was born because his parents decidet to drink lots of alcohol wouldn't say that. Alcohol makes you feel good and happy and it makes you feel love too. -there would be no beatles as we know if it it wasn't for drugs. Same goes for many other artists, painters.. etc. -having fun and laughting is good thing to me. Even in the long run. :roll: Your first two points are ridiculous and the first one REALLY proves my point (accidental pregnancies), and the third one is quite sad. You cannot have fun without alcohol and/or drugs? A very sad existence that must be, indeed. And even more sad yet, it is an argument used by MANY to explain why alcohol and drugs are a "good" thing. So apparently you're not alone in such an apparently pitiful existence. According to you, that is. ;) Please, don't use such strong statements as "proving me wrong" unless you're actually going to really put me in my place.

Explain to me how the same cannot be done by tracking credit card usage or cell phone data, or tell me you never use either, EVER, because you don't like the exposure it creates for you. In which case I would once again have to point out we're on the internet, everything we type passes by the Echelon programme and the deathsquad is alread en route to your location, so you're screwed anyway. It's a tad different because those things are not always active. You can use a credit card at Wal-mart, and in 5 minutes, you can be at a friends house and no one would know where you went after Wal-mart. Similarly, a cell phone is not always on, and you're not always talking on it, so it cannot create the ping needed to link to cell-phone towers. Or perhaps you don't even have your cell phone on your persons...Say, it is at home, and you are in a different state! This chip, however, would be able to track you at all times. Anywhere. it would be in your body, so you'd have no choice BUT to take it with you.

Venomai: Like pretty much all teens, I've tried all of those things, and found them to be vastly over-rated and, for lack of better words, pointless, stupid, and boring. I do not deny the healing powers of Marijuana. Some people claim it helps their pain. So be it. However, it is a mind-altering substance, and after these people take it long enough, they become [wagon]es. I know that's not a scientific fact, but it's an observation of mine and MANY other people. Have you ever been sober around people smoking pot? They can go from awesome friends into total idiots...They talk about completely redundant things, "new" ways to smoke their pot, which are often completely stupid...They laugh non-stop and they...Well, they just ramble on about stuff that is completely irrelevant. You argue that having an "altered state of mind" is helpful. I completely disagree, and since that is simply your opinion - not a fact - I believe I can do that. Having an altered state of mind, especially repeatedly or for long periods of time, is NOT helpful at all. It distracts you from the REAL world and puts you in one that is completely imaginary. Now, when you smoke pot, you don't go to a new plane of existence, but you do go to a "place" in the real world where things just don't matter anymore. Do you know how many people discuss things that DON'T have to do with pot or their current state of mind while high? Not very many. I'd wager zero. All of my friends smoked pot when I was growing up, so of course I tried it after some coaxing. After I sobered up from that, I realized how much of a [wagon] I was being while I was high. I mean, we'd talk about things like what to make bongs out of, where to get better pot...Growing pot...Pretty much everything revolved around pot. If you're going to do drugs, I'd say stick to pot, Psilocybes or Dimethyltryptamine, nothing more, for one...And if you're going to do them, do them very rarely. But we both know why this never works - pretty much everyone ends up doing them FAR more often due to peer pressure, lack of self control, etc etc. THAT is why they are bad and should be avoided. Almost no one knows what self control even means anymore, lol. As for drinking, drinking is by far the most over-rated experience I've ever had. I only drank once and it was probably the dumbest feeling ever. Your mind feels a little different, then you pass out and remember nothing, damaging your liver in the process. Yay... I do not deny that alcohol has been shown to help your heart or whatever. As for your IQ, as a whole, I'd severely doubt that one! People who use alcohol more than they should are JUST like pot-heads. Stupid, and thinking nothing of anything but alcohol. And again, that is the problem - One drink is okay, one joint may be okay, but just like a potato chip...No one has just one. I just stay away from them because they're damaging to your body and a distraction from life, period. Nothing good has ever come of these things in the long run.

Fortunately for me, killing people is against my beliefs. Unlike your religion, which promotes it openly! This is a fact you can deny all you please, but denying facts do not make them false. If they did, I'd just deny Muhammed's existence and call it done. Unfortunately, this man DID live, however, and now we have to put up with his BS. So, no...Not planning on bursting into a Mosque with a machine gun anytime soon. You see, Jesus (who was a far greater man [if you can call him that] than Muhammed ever was) told us to pray for those who would harm us, and to pray for those who persecute you in their disbelief. You, as well as all other Muslims, are prayed for by Christians, not gunned-down in the streets. ...Which is more than we can say for Islam, who - while I type this - is likely the cause of some atrocious death somewhere, especially if a Christian in a Muslim nation is involved. No one on my end of the computer is "Islamophobic". I do not fear Islam, I simply know it's ways; apparently, more so than you do. Spread the word peace while showing none (the opposite, in fact). That is the name of Islam's game. Tell me, how do I sound scary? Futhermore, how do I sound anymore terrifying than you do? I am saying what your religion is about, and you are not denying it. YOU are terrifying. There is nothing terrifying about Christianity. No beheading of unbelievers, no beating of wives, nothing. So, I am hereby "charged" with "bigotry"? Um, then so be it? But keep in mind that you disagreeing with what I am saying makes you just as much of a bigot. Especially since you've referred to me as "crazy" (even though I'm clearly not) and pointed out the fact that I am part Jewish as if that were a BAD thing. You're not saying it out-right, but I'm willing to bet anything that you hate Jews. All Muslims do, because all Muslims perceive Jews to be at fault for the conflict on-going around Palestine and the taking of "Muslim land", even though it was clearly Jewish land for thousands of years before Muslims stole it. Keep in mind, too, that Muslims in Palestine as a whole are now teaching their children to be Jew-killing suicide bombers, not "loving, peaceful Muslims". Bless all those who see through Muslims' BS. I have no idea who "Salman Rushdie" is, by the way, nor his or her book.

They'll re-drop party hats and finish the game off. :lol:

Actually, the sleeping bag was a DREAM update after the horribleness of original fatigue. :lol:

I'd be happy if they restored RSC rules to the RS2 engine. :P Minus that fatigue BS, of course. I swear, they need to get more creative. There are much easier ways to take care of autoers. Random Events were a good way that were only SLIGHTY annoying, but this new stuff is like...Wow. Holy crap.

You kind of missed my point. What I tryed to say was that cristian heaven sounds impossible and quite funny to me. You said everything in heaven is perfect. Now, that must mean perfect by terms of bible, you can't even think of dirty thoughts.. Sounds like turning into mindless robots to me. The whole consept of people would change so radically that its hard to believe. And what would u guys do there? Talk with jesus 4000 years? What about next 4000 years? You would get very bored hanging around with you boring allmighty god to be honest. Even if you were in love with him so much (which I dont get by the way at all, how can you worship such a spychopat..) Just think about it. You referring to Jesus as a "psychopath" shows your obvious DESIRE to not comprehend. Furthermore, just because it doesn't make sense to you at the moment does not mean it is not true. That attitude is what has gotten Muslims in trouble by denying the Trinity because it just "doesn't make sense" to them! Tell me, what do you believe? Evolution? And there was never a time when it didn't make sense to you? I call BS. You fail to understand the concept of a "perfect world". Those who accept Jesus will not be living in Heaven, sitting around and talking to Jesus for eternity - though I'm sure a lot of Christians would love to do that. I personally would love to talk to Jesus for a while. Anyways, the perfect world means everything is restored to what it was originally, and what is is supposed to be like...In other words, there is no lying, because people don't THINK to lie. They don't need to because they do no wrong. They don't kill because they don't have to - they are too happy. They don't steal because God provides everything you want. What you're saying is basically, "I like sex, drinking, partying (insert thing that likely isn't good for you here), and if I couldn't do it, I would miss it! So I don't even WANT to go to Heaven!"...Well, good for you then. You have somewhere between 0 and 120-ish years to do as much self-pleasing things as you can, then! But Christians, in the mean-time, can do whatever they like as well, and then, when it comes down to the end, they get to do it FOREVER. You see, it isn't that Christians are oppressing themselves from living life, it's that they don't WANT to live your life-style. A life of sex, drinking, drugs and stupidity is...Well, stupid. Even when I didn't believe in God, I wanted nothing to do with these things because they bring nothing but trouble in the long-run. Go ahead, drink and have sex with random partners! Come back and tell me how your liver feels when you have Sclerosis of the liver from alcohol and Hepatitis C! Tell me how AIDS is treating you! Tell me how that Herpes outbreak is going! Tell me how your illegitimate children are! ...Of course, you'll say "Ha! Fool! This doesn't happen to everyone!", and of course, you're right, it does not. But it potentially can, and saying, "It won't happen to me!" is not the sign of a wise man. "It won't happen to me!" is what usually lets it happen! So, go ahead, have your 100 years (give or take...probably take!) of abundance and bad choices and call it "living life". In the mean while, I'll be living life...Over here...Not doing stupid things...Being JUST as happy and fulfilled as you are. You see, that's the grand misconception - that religious people aren't having as much "fun". Trust me, we're having plenty. ;) And no, I will not get bored hanging out with God. I'll have plenty of other things to do. Who knows what will be goin' on...Perhaps we'll get to sit around and play a video game of our own design! Or drive a car of our own design! Or perhaps it'll be just like now, only PERFECT. Another misconception is that Christians will sit in Heaven forever...This is not the case. Earth will be restored to it's former glory, and we will live there in perfect harmony with none of this bad crap going on. No Muslims threatening to behead us, no wars, no violence, just living as we would now, only better. Much better. Perfect.

The same thing happened to me. Old guy plowed into me, I got blamed because I was 19, even though I had the right of way and the guy was speeding. Psht. Don't misjudge the amount of damage a car can do at 40 MPH, though. My car was totalled by a guy doing 30 in a 20.

This is also so stupid scam emails can be detected and so player account safety is boosted as well. Snake went because JaGex thought his Russian-English translator was a macro device. He brought his whole computer to prove that he wasn't macroing to the JaGex head quarters. Yes, which means Jagex knows what programs you're running with RuneScape open, which begs the question...Why the hell aren't they banning people for using macros if they can clearly see they have them running? Perhaps they can't tell, because WoW does the same thing, yet WoWGlider is currently ruining WoW aswell!

They always pick the WORST way possible to fix these things. Jagex has never been imaginative at all, lol. Instead of making it so you can't talk money into the wild (which would make sense ANYWAYS, you don't need it!), they remove the wild and make PKing in a place where you can't take money into, and your PK target is random... WTF?! *Shrug* I just wish they would sell RSC's source to someone so they would set it up for people to play and continue to develop it. I would refinance my house just to buy that source, lol. I love RSC that much.

The 360 is fine, especially now since they've gotten all the bugs out as far as I know of. I've had mine almost a year now and it's 100% perfect.

Unless skepticsannoted has changed alot since I last visited, that place is a joke, and hardly objective. Indeed it is. It's written by...Well, skeptics, and they show that very well. The first time I read that site, I did not consider myself remotely Christian, but I also didn't consider myself an atheist. I read the first 10 or 11 chapters of Genesis on that site and every single claim they make against the quotes in the Bible could easily be debunked by anyone familiar with the Bible, AKA, those guys were just trying to make it look bad, and their childishness and lack of knowledge really showed through. As for you, BlueLancer - How much do you know of the Qu'ran? The Qu'ran, and Muslims with it, are claiming that Muhammed was the final prophet of the God of the Jews, Yahweh/Jehovah, YHWH, whatever you wish to call him. They call him the "God of Abraham" when referring to the connection. SO! If the Qu'ran claims to be associated with the Torah or the Bible (not the Talmud - from what I understand, that was written later by Jews and is full of ridiculousness, though I have admittedly never read it), then we CAN use the whatever the Torah and Bible says to disprove it. This is countered by Muslims who simply say "The Bible is corrupted.", HOWEVER, in 1947-1953, the Dead Sea Scrolls were found, and they show the Bible to be 100% accurate to what it was 2000 years ago. 100%. Nothing has changed. Therefore, we KNOW that the "The Bible is corrupted" claim is false. Futhermore, Muslims claim that the Qu'ran has never, ever been changed in 1500 years or whatever since it came about...We know this, too, to be false. The Qu'ran HAS changed and you can google that fact and find it whenever you'd like to. So, in short... 1) The Qu'ran is claiming to be futher (correcting) revelation from the God of the Torah and Bible. 2) God's revelation ended with Jesus. Muslims deny this by saying the Bible is corrupted. 3) The Bible has NEVER been corrupted - FACT. 4) Muslims ignore this and continue to say it is - Because if they acknowledge it, their religion means nothing. 5) Islam is therefore not viable, and you can call it flame-baiting if you wish, but I'm not looking to make anyone mad, I'm just stating facts. Go ahead and check 'em if you'd like! So, since Islam is not viable, I am not being blasphemous as he says. He can THINK I am and thus be all offended, but his anger is in vain. But I know where you're coming from - Everyone has a right to their religion, etc etc etc...But the thing is, he is calling Christianity a great big lie himself JUST by being a Muslim. You will *never* find a Muslim on this Earth that will say "Naw, man, Christianity is just another belief, that's your right!" because if Christianity is viable, their religion is TOAST. I'm sure you haven't done a ton of research on the subject, so hopefully my insight has given you a little more knowledge. I'm fully aware that modern society tells you that I'm being an [wagon] right now, but I'm really not trying to be.

How am I trying to screw anything up? Ohhhhh! You mean I'm taking some people to Hell with my Jewish, ape-like self? I like how the SECOND I say I'm part Jewish, you jump on it as if it's something to attack. Well, my point has clearly been proven! I'm not taking this personally, I'm taking it just how it should be taken. Islam is a lie, and I'm trying to make people see WHY it is a lie. If they want to believe it, that is fine, but they are ignorant. You can't just say "the Bible is corrupted." and have that be it. PROVE IT, SIR! The Qu'ran saying it is IS NOT PROOF. Lucky for us, we have proof that it ISN'T corrupted and that the Qu'ran IS corrupted. Sucks for you. What is my problem? My problem is that Islam is ridiculous and slandering the religion of a God they call their own. Islam is NOT the religion of the God of Abraham, fool. IT CANNOT BE. It is 100% impossible (for the numerous reasons I've already stated, AND MORE), which is why I've always said Islam's biggest mistake was associating itself with the God of Abraham - or trying to, anyways. Muhammed was an Ishmaelite. Call God racist if you wish, but he did not have Ishmaelite prophets. They were ALL Israelites. Every single one. That is why (or because, rather) Jews are said to be God's chosen people.

Holocaust deniers are stupid. The Holocaust happened, it's just that they believe the number of deaths has been greatly inflated, thus they don't believe it. Also, it's unclear weither Jews were gassed using Zyklon B in camps or not, because the "gas chamber" walls have no blue staining or anything indicating it was used. Also, the Nazi's de-loused Jews and there was a pool at one of the camps...So Holocaust deniers say that Nazi's were treating the Jews far too well to have just been gassing them for fun. I don't believe the Nazi's gassed the Jews or killed them for fun, I *DO* believe, however, that the Nazi's were working them to death, and the de-lousing was only so the Nazi's didn't get lice and say it didn't out-break all over the freakin' place. Also, most of the Zyklon B canisters were found to have been used for de-lousing, not gassing. Oh, and the Soviets changed some of the buildings after the war to make them look like gas chambers when they were not, they were oringinally bunkers or bomb shelters. So, I assure you, people are lying about the Holocaust by making it sound as if the Nazi's gassed Jews for fun, because that is not the case. However, they did round them up and then worked them to death, which, uhh...That's not exactly good, my friends. :lol: They also deny the Holocaust happened because the number of deaths could be inflated, but it's quite obvious MANY people DID die. The number is kinda' irrelevant.

I'll throw out one to BlueLancer real quick... Those quotes are completely accurate, and yes, they both incite hatred. HOWEVER! There is one big difference between Islam and Christianity. Islam has no new covenant to stop these things - They are still supposed to be doing them. Christianity, however, had a new covenant. Forgive me, I'm not a Biblical scholar so I can't find exact quotes right now, but it was...Mark I think? I don't remember, anyways, unimportant, the MESSAGE is, however...Whoever it was, was talking in the Bible about how after Jesus came, a new covenant was made and all of those stupid things in the Torah were no longer viable. We didn't have to do them anymore. And even if there is no God, and religion is all a big farce, you have to say thank God for that one, because if it wasn't changed, the world could be DRASTICALLY different today. Finding your wife sleeping with another man would mean your wifes' death. Your child speaking against you? Death, and Lol, Lord knows I'd be dead then. :P Anyways...If you believe in religion or do not, it matters not...My point is that Islam's atrocities still stand firm, and are practiced in most Islamic countries. I'd like to say ALL Islamic countries, but there is bound to be one that isn't too fond of it, lol. However, no one practices the things in the Torah anymore. Not even the Jews, who do not believe in this new covenant...Which begs the question - Did they stop, or did God stop them? Who knows, I guess? I will stand by it for the rest of my life that even if - down the road - I do not believe in religion, I will always believe that Islam is the biggest farce in history, and you almost cannot help calling it a religion of Satan even if you don't believe Satan exists, lol. It may shock a few of you, but I am not what most people would consider a "Christian". I have tried to be in the past, and failed. Just like Peter in the Bible, I've denied Jesus 3 times myself. Once, then picked up religion, then again a denial, then picked it up again, and again - denied him. I'm in a place right now where I wish I could pick it up, but I fear I'll only deny him again and again, so...I believe what the Bible says MAY very well be true, but I am currently not calling myself a Christian. :P

Yeah. Tell that to Schmo0zle here. That's what he had been implying as well. If I knew any better you should have said the same thing to him in the first place. Talk about a one-sided Mod.... There is a difference between you and I, though...I am backing up my claims, you are not. I am speaking the truth, you are lying. Therefore, I am "being blasphemous" against a false religion, while you're being blasphemous against a potentially true one. It's either Atheism or Christianity, really...There is no other viable alternative. Islam shouldn't mean "Submitting to God", it should mean "Lying to the masses" if you ask me, lol. But go ahead - debunk the Jewish lies coming from Schmo0zle!

Nice sarcasm... not. You're racist 'cause you're putting another religion in a bad light. Aka INCITING RELIGIOUS HATRED? It's fine if you don't like someone's religion, really. Just don't talk bad about it. Ooooookay? How about being "religist" then? Being racist doesn't apply to races only. It can be against any form of group. Yeah? Well right back at ya! Dude, Muhammed isn't possessed by a demon. Tell that to all the other Muslims in this world and they'll say the same thing. Satan tempted Muhammed to say it, but Gabriel corrected him. Muhammed was illiterate. Period. Lol, was I threatening you? No. That outcry was due to the fact that what you're saying is BLASPHEMY. Well, yeah. The Bible is corrupted as it has been edited numerous times by humans. Little bit of editing, here. There. Looks like it never changed at all. Yeah.... the crap that you've mentioned definitely counts as BLASPHEMY. If this leaked to the papers/media, it'll create a storm bigger than the "Teddy-bear" thing. I'll give you one thing, though. Jews and Muslims are at war with each other, from the ancient times till now. Right now it's pretty much Palestine, Iran, Iraq versus Israel and the U.S. Hey, you think Muslims are doing bad things against Jews. What you don't know is that Jews are doing bad things against Muslims too. You should go to Jerusalem, then you'll see Jews destroying mosques and killing Muslims. On top of that, Jews use the Internet to create Islamic websites, thinking that they can fool us into believing what they wrote. Such as: http://www.answering-islam.org http://www.thequran.com http://www.thekoran.com/imk Go to dictionary.com...Look up "racism". Tell me where you see that religion is bolstered under racism? You will see it no where, because it isn't racist to hate a religion. Hating a religion is like disagreeing with someone on ANYTHING in life. Your religion is an "idea". If I disagree with someone's idea, I'm a racist? Again - You're foolish. Grasping for straws only helps if you're making sense, my friend. Inciting religious hatred? Please. Muslims are the only ones who incite religious hatred. They'll talk freely about Christians being corrupted idolaters (LOL! Muslims bow to a big black box in a city and go there to kiss a black meteorite! IDOLATRY ANYONE?!) just because they pray in front of a cross, and Jews being apes and pigs because the Qu'ran says they are...And those two groups basically just go "Umm, okay? Whatever.", but if one person in the group lashes out at Muslims (me, for example), they are "inciting religious hatred" and Muslims rally in the streets, whining and complaining and calling for heads to roll. If you don't want to be incited to hatred - IGNORE ME. I'd ignore me if I were you. You've presented nothing to counter my arguments, you've just called me a "liar". You know what? I am presenting facts, you are presenting uneducated opinions. PERIOD. Oh, and I'll talk about your religion all I wish, because people need to know it is a farce. If you don't want to believe in Judaism or Christianity or whatever, FINE! But do not fall for Islam's "peaceful religion" BS. If everyone in the world was a Muslim, every woman in the world would live in terror - and don't you think for a second that they wouldn't. The Qu'ran says you can beat your wives, and in Eastern countries - they take it much farther than a slap on the head for discipline. They BEAT their wives and treat them like dogs. And the women stay with them because they believe it to be Allah's will. Ridiculous. And how many women would get lashings for being raped if the whole world were Muslims? All of them? Apparently, according to Islamic law, if a woman is raped, it is her fault for not covering up enough! STUUUUPIDITY! "Religist" isn't a word, by the way. Lol. Again, you bring no argument. I say Muhammed may have been possessed by a demon, you say "Dude, no he wasn't." Umm, prove it? Of COURSE all other Muslims in the world will say he was not, but if you want to play a biased numbers game - Ask all the Christians! There are more Christians, and they'll say that he WAS! Oh dear, what now? If you're going to try to disprove my claims, BACK THEM UP. You said Muhammed's heart was cleansed by Allah so that he could not be touched by Satan, but then Satan made him utter things? HELLO? Dude, contradiction in the QU'RAN!! And yes, I know you love to say how illiterate Muhammed was. It's actually the strongest argument for Islam - which is REALLY sad. It's just too bad that he surrounded himself with people who WERE literate. Whoops. Is it any wonder why the Qu'ran and Bible are so similar as far as the Old Testament goes? It isn't because Muhammed was a prophet, it's because Muhammed was a THIEF. He stole the Qu'ran from the Jewish Torah, and please don't say that is impossible, because Jews were living in Mecca at the time, and all over the freakin' place. It's possible. It's also possible that Christians were there too, in fact I'm sure they were...And he heard of the Trinity and of Jesus being the savior and he didn't get it, so he made up his own religion. TO THIS DAY Muslims do not "get" the Trinity. They do not understand it. That is why they do not believe it. Look up any Muslim speaking about it. "It just doesn't make sense" is what you will hear. IT ISN'T THAT COMPLICATED, PEOPLE! ...But, good for Christians, the Trinity doesn't even have to be CORRECT in order for Jesus to be Lord and Savior. Ever heard of Jehovah's Witnesses? Many Christians call them a "cult" because they don't believe in the Trinity. See, though? They still accept Jesus and Lord and Savior, they just don't accept him as literally God in the flesh. Which is it? I don't know, not the point - the point is that Muslims are ignorant of the Trinity and of Jesus. They deny Jesus ever DIED. Are you kidding me? This is WELL DOCUMENTED BY THE ROMANS. Ugh. More Satan deceiving people. If you deny Jesus' death, you are denying Jesus' sacrifice, and thus denying Jesus as Lord. YOU ARE DECEIVED. The Torah even speaks of the Messiah being killed and that they would "pierce his side" and that his heel would be bruised and that his sacrifice would crush Satan's head - which it will, in due time. Or maybe it already has in a non-literal sense, I don't know, lol. But any any rate - WOW. That is just how Jesus died. Jews are also deceived. They believe that Jesus was not the Messiah even though he fulfilled something like 300 prophecies. Why do they deny him? because a few were not fulfilled, like world peace...Umm, hello...When Jesus returns, world peace is promised. Geeez, Jews are being silly too. The Torah says that when the Messiah dies, Solomon's Temple will be destroyed. It was destroyed, so, it's either Jesus, or it's NO ONE. What I'm saying is Blasphemy? To whom? You? Well, that's fine and dandy, but I do not acknowledge the Qu'ran as anything but lies. I am not being blasphemous, YOU ARE. That's fine, though, because if the Bible is true, then when Jesus comes back, you will bow to him like everyone else. And make no mistake! You cannot deny the Bible and say the Qu'ran is truth. It's either the Bible or nothing. There are SO MANY Biblical passages that warn of the Qu'ran, warn of false prophets, and say very simply, "This is the word of God, I will never change it. Ever. This is it. Boom. Done." Yet you deny the Bible like a fool? DUDE, look up the DEAD SEA SCROLLS. They were found and PROVED that the Bible hadn't been changed. Yes, there are certain versions TODAY that have been changed a bit (numbers of X or Y thing, etc), but no Christian worth their salt acknowledges them. They're as fake to us as the Qu'ran. The King James Version is the one that hasn't been changed. The Dead Sea Scrolls were made before 100 AD, AKA, they were made VERY close to Jesus' death, AKA, the Bible today coincides with the Dead Sea Scrolls - IT IS NOT CORRUPTED. Your Imam LIED to you, as have ALL Muslims been lied to and are lying when they say it is! WE HAVE PROOF THAT IT IS NOT CORRUPTED. PERIOD. However, the Qu'ran is different! They were doing construction on a Mosque somewhere and found the Qu'ran, which was different from today's, and they found statues of "Allah" which coincide with the "Moon God" from the Pagan Meccan days! OH SNAP. But of course, you'll deny those completely, right? Even though they're both well documented? I'm sure you will. The Bible says those who disbelieve will be willingly ignorant, and you are willingly ignorant...It's almost like I don't NEED faith, because you're proving the Bible to me, Lol. Also, I am aware jews do bad things to Muslims. I am not a wacked-out Zionist, I do acknowledge these things. However, Muslims started this all thousands of years ago - you can't make Muslims out to be an innocent party here. Jews use the internet to create anti-Islamic websites? Well, I'm sure some may do that...But Muslims do it to Jews as well, so what is your POINT? Stop trying to make Muslims look like victims. You and I both know they are not victims. Also, who the hell said those websites are run by Jews? Your hatred of Jews is showing now! Blaming everything on the Jews, I see. Just like any Muslims or White Supremacist does. Nicely done, my friend. I am part Jewish, and you're not even able to defend against what I am saying, because you cannot make my facts look like lies when you can find these facts ANYWHERE. Saying "That is a lie." and not backing it up IS NOT convincing to anyone. So, how does it feel to have a Jew spreading the word about your false religion? Bet that sucks, huh...Oh well. Maybe you can pray to your Moon God to smite me...But...Since Islam is a religion of Satan...That would mean that Satan would have to harm me...And he can't, because I know Jesus is Lord, and Satan can't touch me! BAWWWWWW. Poor baby. Hebrew FUN FACT! - The Hebrew for "Curse" is "Alah". ;)

A moment ago, this topic said $600! I smell conspiracy. Bubsa has obviously stolen $23 from the fund! ZOMG! Okay, he probably didn't... :XD:

What about a wedding ring makes a couple more ready? Yes, it does signify a couple's commitment to each other (and nine times out of ten I would definitely bet on the married couple raising their child better), but talking in absolutes like that is generally not a good idea when making a point. Making a point requires you talk in generalities. What kind of a point is a point that only applies to a specific person in a specific situation? The entire point of a point is that it applies in general. So, in general, premarital sex happens between people that are less committed to each other than marital sex. Oh no, did I just make a blanket statement? Lol, thank you for making my point using far less words than I. :lol:

What about a wedding ring makes a couple more ready? Yes, it does signify a couple's commitment to each other (and nine times out of ten I would definitely bet on the married couple raising their child better), but talking in absolutes like that is generally not a good idea when making a point. A responsible couple would get married, wait until they're secure, then have kids. Having a ring on your finger and the proper documents doesn't make you ready to have a kid, but it does show that at least you're in it together and are committed to make whatever happens work out. Stupid 15 year old kids screwing around and accidentally having babies aren't exactly "responsible", "ready", or "in it together". Usually, the guy bails, the chick drops out of school to take care of the kid, the guy has to do the same to pay child support, etc etc for 18 years, AND THEN you're too old to fix your life! In other words; Life = over. Venomai - Nice solution! Two [developmentally delayed]ed kids (or adults, whichever) make a mistake...So they kill a baby to save their [wagon]. Perfect reasoning. That seems like a sound choice. How about just doing what I originally said and not screw each other until you're ready to face the consequences of that action? Abortion should be reserved for women who are raped, that is all (and if you want to get whiny and technical, any woman who may die during birth should have the option, too). Everyone else is getting them because they're ridiculously bad at making decisions in life. And you go on to comment about condoms and birth control...Indeed, good advice, but certainly not sure-fire. You'd assume that both methods, which are 99.99% effective, would make it impossible to get pregnant...However, both me AND my sister were conceived even though my parents were using both at the time - when they were 18. The entire first 10-ish years of my life were spent in near-poverty because they weren't ready to have me yet. I think I have a lil' experience on the matter...I'm not a Christian trust-fund baby who's preaching what he knows not of. ;) Do I regret having sex with my girlfriend before I was married to her? Not really, but only because she didn't get pregnant. I've thought about it, and if she DID, I would have been ROYALLY screwed. Even more-so than my parents were when they had me. My girlfriend regretted it to the same degree I did...We're glad we did it and it was good and worked out well, but we both know damn well that if it didn't, we'd both be regretting it right now, and for the rest of our lives. You have to have foresight, not hindsight. It's find and dandy to look back and say "Wow, I screwed up.", but the wisest people in th world don't make the mistake in the first place.

Since when does a wedding ring make sex safer? I'd love to see these stats. I've seen statistics that make a lot of regular activities look bad -- does this mean we should stop enjoying life? Sex, alcohol, drugs, roller coasters, coffee, soft drinks, computer games, sports, driving, etc. Who said anything about "safe"? If you're having pre-marital sex and your woman gets pregnant...What're you gonna' do? Most guys bail, some take care of them, but either way, you're hindering your OWN life because you have to care for another life. AKA, pre-marital sex is teh badz. I can't condemn people who do it though, I can only say it's not a good idea. Hell, I did it, but most people CONTINUE to do it with many random people. I did it once with one girl, who I am still with. :P