You couldnt be more wrong, it is identical to the whip in speed and strength. big bonus is you can actually train strength. whip + rune def is better but u cant train str. anyways DONT post if u have no idea wtf ur talking about. On topic i have no clue, just wait for the price to bottom out and begin to climb again then snag one im thinking. Edit>>>> WOW so many replied the same answer at the same time :uhh: I didn't know, I have never had one.. Don't flame.. Plus having str would be good. ~I just realized I said whip, and whip doesn't train str, there I go =.=~ Yeah, use sara sword maybe.. and then get godsword when ya can