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Wrong. F2P melee - strength amulet, F2P ranged - amulet of zealots. At 99 str potted you hit higher w/ +15% prayer + str ammy than +20% prayer + zealot ammy. Therefore, it is only worth using for ranged.

You could try making a pure f2p account, see what being one of us is like :thumbsup: That's what I did with a p2p account before it got hacked and banned -.-

Made some changes to ranks. Bronze star is now given to anyone that is capable of pro dging, regardless of dg level. However, we will examine this closely and won't just give these ranks out to people. Yeah, we need keyers so so much >.< I might write some tips about keying if I have time.

[bleep] so much workload. Can only get like 3 larges done per day now. Fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu

IMO it is always best to use adamant arrows for all ranged, especially when playing Fist of Guthix or ranging giants. The extra DPS bonus is worth the slightly extra price. Remember, addy arrows used to be 300 gp each and look where they are now...

Haven't been playing much cuz I need to finish an entire freaking essay. In one night. Gf me.

I'm still debating the practicality of a platebody, but for the time being we'll allow people to bind these, until further notice is given. Also debating about the bronze star rank. Should it stick to the 100+ dungeoneering requirement? Or make that the experienced dunger symbol and therefore stripes no longer represent it?

I think the number one problem that we really need to find a solution for would be the xp rates. Because of this xp penalty thing, people are inclined to think 5cb dungs are way slower xp/h, when infact it is actually not that slow. This is especially considering the fact that 90% of my 5cb larges are under 15 minutes (around 11-12 minute average), and for a lot of people they average around 20 minutes doing 2cb3sk larges. The main focus in the chat would only be fast floor times, really. It's pretty much established that the xp rate argument is not going to work...

So ya. I've started recruiting dungeoneers in w7 for my friends chat.

Dungasm is officially recruiting! Join us at any time :) (In case you didn't know, I got the basic formats from DGS.) Any comments about the ranking system and just the guidelines in general?

"HOLY CRAP... I JUST BEAT MY OWN DUNGEON RECORD!!! *gasms*" Admins: 1 Nr, Sonic3190, Micahal, Hypernova78, or Madam, Micwukicku Main world: 7 (F2P) [hide=Purpose and Aims]Our main ideals are the following: - to introduce F2Pers the tips and tricks of being a pro dungeoneer - to find new, unique ways to dungeoneer - to foster a place for efficient dungeoneering - to help world 7 (the official dungeoneering world for F2P) distinguish good and bad dungeoneers We don't focus on other styles of dungeoneering (P2P dungeoneering, 2cb3sk in world 61), but other dungeoneers may use this chat as well.[/hide] [hide=Requirements]In order to dungeoneer with us, the following levels are required. Note that although other skills aren't listed in this list, it is always beneficial to level your stats as high as possible, in order to bring out more damage and/or open up more bonus rooms. You may still use our chat if you don't meet all the skill requirements yet (or are still on your way to getting these). However, we expect you to get these levels as early as you can: - 40 attack & strength, for all fractite weaponry - 64 magic, to use the group gatestone teleport (and fire blast) - 45 prayer, to use all available prayers - 27 runecrafting, to craft cosmic runes There are no dungeoneering level requirements. However, it is highly recommended to be able to access all 35 floors (69+ dungeoneering), so you can host/join any floor you want. Other recommended levels include: - 35 runecrafting, to use a magical blastbox - 54 runecrafting, to craft law runes for yourself - 65 runecrafting, to craft death runes for yourself - 49 smithing, to be able to smith all fractite equipment - generally high combat stats (70+ melees and constitution, high prayer), for survivability and better DPS in guardian doors and bosses - 90+ ranged, to bring out heavy DPS with a shortbow - high non-combat skills to open up bonus rooms (you cannot make potions in F2P) Note that none of the above apply to skillers.[/hide] [hide=Ranks]Ranks in this clan are given out according to dungeoneering level, but star ranks will only be given out if you show that you are capable of dungeoneering well. The stripe ranks in the chat varies according to dungeoneering level. Please note that a higher rank/dg level does not equal to being a better dungeoneer. Here are the ranks: - 1 stripe: All recruits. - 2 stripes: 90+ dungeoneering. - 3 stripes: 100+ dungeoneering. - star ranks: undecided as of yet, but these are to show recognized dgers. Admins will have a group meeting about ranking people up to these ranks if we think they deserve the rank. - keys: Admins. They can kick/ban, invite people to cc, and rank people up. (If you are in another clan, you don't need to leave it - simply join Dungs as a guest :) )[/hide] [hide=Binds]To dungeoneer with us, your binds must be one of the following: First Binds All players should have a fractite spear bound; if the player is a pure, he/she may bind a fractite 2h instead. Ammo Binds All keyers, or those that are learning to key, should have cosmic runes bound. People without 54 runecrafting should have law runes bound. All non-keyers should find a magical blastbox as soon as possible and fill it with 125 blast charges. Binding cosmic/law runes instead is an acceptable alternative. Non-keyers with 90+ ranged should have fractite arrows bound. Second Binds These heavily depend on your ammo bind: - if you have cosmic or law runes bound, bind a fractite 2h. - keyers may bind a fractite platebody as their 2nd bind. - if you have a magical blastbox bound, bind a fire or catalytic staff. - if you have fractite arrows bound, bind a spinebeam shortbow. Third and Fourth Binds Binds after this become a bit more flexible. You may bind any of the following: - fractite maul - fractite gauntlets - fractite boots - air staff - anything mentioned in 1st/2nd that you didn't bind A Slight Note on Fractite Platebodies Part of the process of being a pro dungeoneer is learning survival techniques (pray conservation, looting during GD's, sidestepping, luring). Hence, we discourage the usage of armor as a bind and should only be used when keying. It is not a disallowed bind, but keep in mind your team may not benefit as much from it.[/hide] [hide=Rules]Most of these are common sense, but everyone in the chat are expected to follow these rules: - People in this chat go out of their way to help others. To not listen to our instructions is utterly disrespectful and will not be tolerated. - No excessive or malicious trolling/spamming in any way. - If you have a problem with someone in the chat in particular, please PM one of the admins. Do not start arguments in the chat. - You are not allowed to kick from parties, or leave/ditch dungeons without a valid reason. - If you are doing leech floors, the leech must be someone not in the chat. If we find out you are paying people in the chat to leech, you will be kicked (and possibly banned) from the chat. - Please do not use us as a free ride to get your gravite 2h's or anything of the sort. This goes against our aims of teaching people pro dungeoneering skills, and will be looked down upon. :shame: Keep in mind you do not have to be an active dungeoneer to be within this chat. You may still chat with us as long as you use common sense and follow rules.[/hide] [hide=Floors we do]Generally, we do frozen and abandoned 1 floors as small, furnished as small or large (depends on deepness of floor), and abandoned 2 as large, all as 5:5. However, there are certain circumstances where we may do something else (5:1's, guide mode rushes, c1's). Medium dungeons are generally ignored as a whole, but are good for soloists to practice keying skills by themselves.[/hide] [hide=Conclusion]In the end, we hope that you get something from dungeoneering out of us! We want to make world 7 as less stupid as possible, and by contributing to dungeon progress, you are helping us support this cause. We hope you can get some fun out of this too, and share the good times. This concludes our advertising. Hope we get to know you in the chat ;) [/hide]

All right, I've officially re-opened my friends chat (it was used briefly in the early days of dg) to f2p dungeoneers of all sorts. We primarily focus on 5cb larges, finding new ways to do such things, like guidemoding and 5:1's. We also tried taking in a leech with us, advertising our sub15 minute large average. The leech paid 250k/large. I'm starting to wonder if this is gonna be 3bo all over again...

I think the real challenge lies within map usage, your gatestones and keeping your run energy intact all the time. I find that when guidemoding 5:1, you need to read map alot and make sure the map doesn't screw you over or anything (like monoliths or colored ferrets). The 1-hit boss thing with a lvl 3 is really only useful for frozen maps. I find that guidemoding may be an effective way to do future dungs, as a set amount of rooms are always crit and it really brings out mapreading skills. (In fact, due to p2p doors it may be more worth it to do guide mode larges in f2p...) In other news, I opened up my friends chat for anyone wanting to do larges as 5 combats.

For abandoned 2. For frozen. Our method to achieving these times is to keep spamclicking our map to check for crit doors (they are a brighter color). Keyer gates base, and once they loot coins they tele back to make cosmics/laws and get a tk. Gates are always used on crit key doors. One person always doorstands when GD or puzzle to open the door as soon as possible. When emotes/switches, we just do them on the spot since only 1 person is needed anyway. All GD's + boss we use +15% att/str on. Could have been sub4 but oh well :D

F2P's fastest larges yet?

omg i'm about to die of overexcitement right now

obt what's your fastest fl time, doing boss as soon as it's found and ending the dg? just curious :P fulls can be done in 13 minutes, so probably half the time?

New time + abandoned 2 record.

yaman 5cb is the new w61 need 1 more person to fill up our permteam for fl times. (not u cuz ur a useless [harpy]) only do it for fun though. try and find the friends chat im in ;)

Wasn't able to post this yesterday <_< oh well. EDIT: Got this for abandoned 2.

Best floors I have done in a while.

Congratz to Kadour Ziani for being the 3rd f2per to completely max out all skills +120 dung :thumbsup:

o btw, i refuse to have my blog merged k. greens blog is dead. merge his. and ltk just cuz he wants to.