Agreed, Armored Zombies are the best training method. Don't need good armor, because there is an alter up the ladder, so you can pray melee, and piety, and whatever you like. Also what makes this the best is ability to use salve ammy in addition to piety. This is a good way to get money. They drop a LOT of high level herbs. Definitely the best place to train hardcore, while still making a lot of money.