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I don't mind any floors but the demand for <30 is basically 0 so nobody does those. Abandoned is ok but I like to actually use hex so I usually do occult :P Also dragging players through an abandoned can be hard with all newbies. Not that they're bad, just not pro.

Rapier, or get the mage level for ccs. I don't even have the stats for rapier or a Csb. So I gusse I have to at least get 70 runecrafting? Based on your stats, get 70 rc asap along with 83 magic for air surge. At 100 dng, bind gorgonite rapier, or maybe gorgonite gauntlets, until someone gives you a blood neck (if ever). 90 attack should be a priority if you can stand it.

Boots are +10, gloves are +12 @ Oscar, I hardly do abandoneds now so I've only had that boss once since I got hex, but why are you comparing with prayers activated? You have to turn them off after a bit otherwise it heals I thought? It is probably worth it to hex with armour if this is true then, and definitely useful to have hex if you get bound. @ Everto, What is your point? If it has high defense to ranged and melee then melee would win since it has much higher accuracy. However, I am skeptical due to not knowing the player. But is something to keep in mind.

Imo For keyers; Hex > CCS > Emp fire > Plate > Blood neck > Sag body > Gaunts > Rapier Although that is only if you are good at safespotting, and assumes your team is good enough to sometimes make you range armour & usually fire runes. With bad teams, plate and ccs switch. Also plate is very close to CCS & emp fire for occult, but not nearly as good for warped. @ Everto, no.

similar ones have been posted 50x but I figured I'd repost this also I formatted it different, might not be perfect, I don't remember what others looked like first line is for flower room btw

grats yyboy [spoiler=antispam] 85 farm looks nice :) slowly trying to get max total@

arrows aren't horrible if you are between 54 and 64 rc imo bloods from 65-69 is better if 83+ mage and laws save a bit of time / cash at the begining, but arrows are good for necrolord I'd personally have arrows bound 77 - 82 dng if I were 54-64 rc and didn't key then laws / bloods 83+ dng maybe even arrows 83+ with 54-64 rc also: [spoiler=NICE HEX]

That's some guy I knew from a couple years back, I don't remember where from or anything (barrows maybe? I did a lot of that). He pms me random stuff ?? I told him there were some hounds where I was but no puppies :(

He looks so awesome!!

are you jelly ALSO WARD YOU SAID YOU WOULDN'T TELL ANYONE T_T!!!! BTW I solo'd the floor (except for some skill reqs that I couldn't do)

tipsi took over >_< but congrats on 100 meam! lol

I approve. :thumbup: wanna fite@@ Nevar... I wouldn't dare hit a girl ;) *punches you in the nose* ??????????? *teletabs away*

I approve. :thumbup: wanna fite@@

Did you know: You can quickswitch your ring as you kill something, even if being attacked by something else. The timing is a bit hard though Learned this from watching smelly's vid, never knew it before. It is very useful for hexers, and also for mage/warriors a bit.

If you can't count on a wingman to do stuff for you, then you should have a plate bind. They make you dino armour, they can make you fire runes. Maybe on a good team there are other skilling things to do first, so that's why emp fire is an option. Also, you can always switch to berserker after killing something if you prefer. But maging w/ cat staff is supposed to be superior to prim 2h. You can mage skeles and zombs, just not forgotten rangers or mages etc. The healing effect of the necklace is very tiny for the keyer. As the keyer I do not want to purposely get meleers on me and have to waste pray. Being able to attack things as you run through gds or from the door is not a huge reason, but its still nice. Basically I think that although blood neck is a good dps bind, it is not as good for the keyer. The staff + magic allows for far more survivability than blood neck with safespotting melee'ers. You really have to hide behind people or monsters a lot though. It might be partially personal preferance, but I hated blood neck as a 3rd bind, I think it is way more suited to non-keyers. I also have not tried emp cat staff, but I have bound emp fire staff twice before as my 3rd bind (plate > staff > plate > neck > plate > staff > hex I think) (I'm 98 mage) But I do admit I prefer plate bind to staff or neck, having to eat a lot is really annoying Only would want a staff with a good team Does anyone know what the dps of emp fire staff w/ blazer compares to prom 2h / primal b axe / primal 2h etc.

keyer should not be meleeing as others, so mage / range bonuses are better so no primal gaunts are bad, same with blood neck often you should be finishing a gd maging standing by the door or with hex you start all gds with it mage also lets you kill stuff over grapple rooms if ur low total helps a lot more in warped than in occult though cele cat is good if you have a wingman who will make you fires if not, for the keyer I suggest emp fire staff or plate Also I do agree that platebody is a good bind for the keyer assuming you don't have someone making you dino armour to survive with mage you really have to safespot most melee monsters by walking around them, you can also pray range during gds since being bound doesn't matter w/ mage, and with fire runes you should be maging most things edit: obt pointed out that cel cat staff has 20 mage def, which is also nice for shades or gds w/ range pray

I complain to my team when my floors are over 25 mins :P

surgeboxes are a lot more common in large floors, because the mages are higher leveled be on the lookout for any high level mage that's holding a surgebox don't clear all monsters, just guardian doors or if you must a puzzle room you do get more xp in a floor for clearing more monsters, but it takes a lot more time and isn't worth it

I was maging stuff in the room I gated waiting for gds But yes I usually instead skill during downtime and was therefore wasting supplies (and you started ranging stuff in the non-gd with me lol) Besides, non-keying is boring as hell, might as well try and get its too easy if not running a path (2/3 that fl >_>) also grats on the fl mc! Ima max my skills and key 15s brb

I've seen 20+ eddimus, 2 blood necks (1 I bound for a while and didn't like it much, destroyed for plate, then emp fire, then hex) 7 soulgazers 1 bow I'm at I think (ty yyboy again!)

gda, stick with prom 2h for now I find that fairly often in my floor I'll be exploring, and multiple paths will open up with puzzles, and I'm the only one exploring. People too often just treat this as down time to skill so I've decided to start saying 'fork' (a fork in the path) when multiple paths open up and people who have free gates should then gt and explore and gate when they can't go further I used to sometimes say gt explore in this situation but nobody really does also a random reminder to people to know you gate(s), be watching the keyer's inv, etc take incentive to explore, but don't stalk the keyer during gds, and if you have something gated then you probably shouldn't explore much and gate stuff without the keyer having to ask (but do NOT gate over stuff unless asked) also don't be offended when I make someone else gate what you just gated. I choose who gates what for a reason (usually total lvl or dng experience)

Empowered fire staff + csb Or cele cat staff if you trust your team enough to make you fire runes emp fire w/ fire surge is 310 max, cele cat w/ air surge is 282 w/ blazer it's 387 / 352 or hex if you get one I don't really suggest a blood neck for a keyer, pretty useless neither do I suggest primal rapier personally I think plate is good for keyer unless your team makes you dino armour (so on pro teams it's definitely worse) it also lets you do some rooms easier without backup/suicide So it's a lot up to preferance and trust of teammates Personally if I didn't have hex I'd be either platebody + laws or emp fire + csb also I think 2h's are better for keyers since often I hit something once while running through a gd, without having time to piety flash also lol a floor:

?????????????????????? I HAVE A CULT COOL AHAHAHA A CULT SOUNDS LIKE OCCULT ????????????????????????????????

??????????????? MORE DEHOODED SO ALL THE BOSSES WILL PILE U AT ONCE???????? ??????????

omfg DEHOODED ALSO??? THIS IS MY SOULSPLIT https://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=0Asyic4BKhW0OdHZpX0gyZFdtN2hFajFmZDd0ZlZleGc&hl=en#gid=0 ???????????? INCASE U DIDNT ALREADY