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Thanks for the fight TO.
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From what I've heard, TT chased YOU to BH. That would make much more sense compared to TT choosing to fight at BH instead of deep wilderness. :lol:
Good work TT, nice try DK.
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Gratz NG, nice levels and a solid performance as always it seems.
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What styles does you clan normally fight with? We try to mix it up as much as possible, I think the styles we most use are Melee+Binds+Ranged.
Would you be willing to fight with more styles added into fights (should you usually limit your styles to say melee+binds only)? The same styles get boring over and over and in any kind of fight, its more intense if both piles have KO power and are dropping people left and right making it tight and therefore more based on ability and organization rather than numbers or levels.
What is your opinion on this topic (was I out of line in anything)? No I agree, I've always taken the "standard official rules" as melee+binds for any important fight when in fact, it means there is less about organization and more about luck and levels. Then again, in small fights like a 20v20 melee+binds it also highlights the indavidual skill every member needs to out tank, out bind, out snipe, call decent piles etc. So Melee+Binds will stay the norm for important wars for quite a while because of its basis around personal skill although there is some sort of element of luck involved which would never go away no matter what styles you have.
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Nice to see you guys here, best of luck in your wars.
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Clan Europe -vs- Team TKO Blitz
The Semi Finals saw Clan Europe, Clan Envy and Team TKO Blitz fighting one another - TKO and CE knocking out Envy therefore bagging a place in the final. TKO and CE also fought their 3rd round and TKO took home a win out-leveled remaining with 6.
- Monday 3rd | | 9:30GMT Start,
- 20 -vs- 20 Final,
- Melee | | Binds | | ONLY,
- Center Bounds | | Classic,
- Ring Allowed,
- CE Team Cape 17,
- NO Corrupt Dragon/Dungeoneering,
- 3 Man Sniper Cap,
- North spawn attacks and
- Post Mandatory.
Having being beaten before, especially feeling hard done by due to a few rule break concerns, CE was more than pumped for this final. We had been defeated in the CJ Tournament 20v20 Final by RDC and were not going to accept a second defeat in this category.
I had stated that if CE took 20 level 126s into the fight and won, I would be singing a song in TS afterwards.
We pulled 19. Tesh - level 126, was absent and away at the time. Good fight lads no song for you, better luck next time - blame Tesh.
CE Starting Ops: 60
TKO Starting Ops: 60
We took 17 level 126s into the fight due to a few inadequacies in gear and prayer bonuses but had a very solid starting ops. We knew that TKO had beaten us before out-leveled and we knew we would be in for a very tough fight. Our split pile FI targeted Kratos first while TKO piled New Killeri. We took down Kratos very quickly while New Killeri tanked all out and mid way through our second pile, TKO unfortunately suffered from a DC taking the fight to 20-18. TKO were able to start pulling back with some solid tanking from Naruto early on causing us to drop a few piles and get rests and were able to reduce the gap to 1 man or even equalize. However after a bit of resting, securer binding and good sniping, we finished off many of the piles we dropped before and were able to take down piles a lot more efficiently. We ended with 10 remaining.
Well done Clan Europe. Beaten before in a 20v20 final, now we've taken a win! Thanks to all those who attended and got cut and well done to all those who got picked and fought with us to victory!
CE Ending Ops: 30
TKO Ending Ops: 0
Thanks for the fight TKO, a tough war yet again for us. Its a shame about the 1 (or 2) DCs you had along with Scottien pulling a "Tesh" and cabbaging out half way through. It may have been a lot closer if not different had that not occurred. Nonetheless, thanks for the fight and good luck in future wars.
Thanks;
~H@R~
- Monday 3rd | | 9:30GMT Start,
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we however respect clans that in-turn show us some.
Considering you crash and try to start fights with almost every clan you can - that list must be very short indeed. Honor has always been based around respect, so your logic is flawed.
As Echo said, your attention demands won't be met here as opposed to RSC.
Welcome nonetheless. :rolleyes:
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Question, if a war video contains music which has words or lyrics that are against the rules - are they allowed to be posted or not?
Other than that, looks good.
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Clan Europe -vs- Australian Army
A few days ago, Rabis set up a war with AA however earlier on today there was a mix up on times so we decided to start the war half an hour earlier for CE.
- Sunday 2nd | | 12:30GMT Start,
- 1hr CWRI,
- Melee | | Binds | | Ranged,
- No Bounds | | Turrets,
- Ring Allowed,
- CE Team Cape 17,
- NO Corrupt Dragon,
- Rush on sight and
- Post Allowed.
Our pull at the mass looked slightly low assuming everyone was still sleeping and being lazy but we managed to pull a sufficient number to compete in the war.
CE Starting Ops: 111
AA Starting Ops: 150
We started off a bit slow but then began to gain momentum however around half way through the fight, AA got some rhythm going and started racking up some kills of their own. We stepped up our game another level by going back to basics on calling good clear piles and were able to extend the gap.
Well done CE, a solid performance overall. Still not perfect but we're slowly getting there. Special mention to Romdath on achieving 98 Prayer & 126 Combat!
CE Ending Kills: 206
AA Ending Kills: 139
Thanks for the fight AA. Thanks to Edward for being able to compromise on a rethought time so close to the war and we appologise for any flaming that some of our members were doing. We kicked 2 or 3 people from the CC due to this and sniping. I look forward to some sort of fight in the future.
Thanks;
~H@R~
- Sunday 2nd | | 12:30GMT Start,
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Don't see why people would want to fight you since when RE decided to give you a CWA fight and then went on to beat you, you spammed "Bye forums" and DDOSd their forums.
Good luck, I would advise people not to waste their time :rolleyes:
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Clan Europe -vs- Juniors
Rabis had set up our second CWRI of the week, this time against Juniors.
- Tuesday 27th | | 7:00GMT Start,
- 1hr CWRI,
- Melee | | Binds | | Ranged,
- No Bounds | | Turrets,
- Ring Allowed,
- CE Team Cape 17,
- NO Corrupt Dragon,
- 5 Snipers Max,
- Rush on sight and
- Post Allowed.
Juniors are capable of pulling solid numbers so we knew we would have to pull similar to compete - we pulled slightly less.
CE Starting Ops: 117
Jr Starting Ops: 135
I wasn't there ... so bear with me. From what I'm world, despite being outnumbered, we had some excellent binds and a strong range unit which enabled us to KO or drop quickly many of the piles that were called. We also apparently had some of the best spam that we've seen in a CE war for a long time so kudos to all for that.
Well done CE, some more solid wins; well done to Killalot and Nykimu who stepped up to lead again.
CE Ending Kills: 212
Jr Ending Kills: 111
Thanks for the fight, as always, Juniors. A solid pull from you guys - since I didn't attend I can't comment on your performance but thanks again for accepting our war offer. Good luck in future fights, I hope we can arrange another war soon.
Thanks;
~H@R~
- Tuesday 27th | | 7:00GMT Start,
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Clan Europe -vs- Massive Metal Attack
Our warlord was able to set up a semi-late fight with MMA, we don't war these guys often so it was bound to be a fun experience.
- Monday 26th | | 8:00GMT Start,
- First to 200 Kills,
- All | | Styles,
- No Bounds | | Turrets,
- Ring Allowed,
- CE Team Cape 17,
- NO Corrupt Dragon,
- NO Snipers,
- Rush on sight and
- Post Allowed.
We massed up a solid amount of people and went into this fight confident especially since we had around 5-10 people over MMA throughout the fight.
CE Starting Ops: 117
MMA Starting Ops: 87
Our numbers peaked around 42 while MMA spiked at around 35 I believe (may have been a few less or more). We were able to KO a lot of our piles with some solid binds and KO power where as some of our members were able to tank for longer against fewer people. MMA's returners often stuck near our pile or decided to snipe giving us easy transitions and quick kills. We set a goal to gain 200 kills before MMA achieved 75 which we were able to do.
Well done guys and girls. Special credit to all the fall in leaders who stood up to get some practice - good tanking and binding throughout guys, solid effort.
CE Ending Kills: 200
MMA Ending Kills: 71
Thanks for the fight MMA, sorry for the few people who flamed once or twice during the fight but other than that, it was fairly clean. Good luck in future fights, maybe we can set up some matched ops fights in the future.
Thanks;
~H@R~
- Monday 26th | | 8:00GMT Start,
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Thanks for the fight Blasphemy - blasted from the start and didn't get piled.
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Thanks for the fight NBK - Tesh slyly evaded getting killed by me but I for once gained rune in a fight. Nevertheless, good fight.
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I'd like to appologise to all TT+BK members who have taken offense from my comments. At the end of the day you won and I wasn't part of this war so what I say is fairly irrelevant however since I have quite a few ties to NBK and TR I merely felt they got hard done by - neither side was totally in the right and although I personally think a RM in a neutral world would be best BT won at the end of the day.
So sorry for my posts, gratz on the win and championship BT - a resilient effort RK, gratz on 2nd.
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Gratz TT, fairly solid ending.
Good luck in the final LPT.
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Anyhow we won with 8 remaining and I had to leave early (because it took so long to start) so I really don't think the outcome would have changed either way.
Most fights end with 50-60% of one sides people remaining, but in this case it was blatantly a lot closer because of the DCs. RK were actually ahead by 2 at the 16-14 stage and in a 20v20, that basically means victory however RK suffered a DC letting BT come back to even it out since you killed your target at the same time. So actually 8 people is very little especially from a big fight like this lol. Had BT won with maybe 25-30 remaining, I would have said the DCs would have made no difference but since you ended with only 8, they obviously did.
So on from that, the DCs affected the fight by a clear mile. Considering that the rules had been agreed upon by all parties, agreeing on 81, and then BT haggled (so basically breaking being late for disqualification and not fighting in the world designated) resulted in the DCs being one of the BIG reasons RK lost, without them, I would have bet that RK would have won this.
In my honest opinion, do a RM. Had W134 been originally agreed upon, then fine, gratz BT. But it wasn't, you refused to war in 81 which you agreed on in the rules (so your fault for accepting) and when you lag because your officials didn't check the world first you expect the world to revolve around you and get the world changed? Your clan broke the world rule and the lateness rule - considering yourselves lucky you weren't DQd.
Ever heard of people being out of food because they've been sniped out/piled earlier in the fight? Lol.
Ever heard of being on time and fighting agreed upon rules? Lol.
We were on time, we even went to world 81. That world was bad so we hopped away asking for a better world.
The fight didn't start on time, you hopped away therefore you delaying the start of the war and you still didn't fight on the agreed war world.
I can easily construe that as them delaying the fight and not starting the fight on time because they were not willing to compromise and find a better world. For probably the 50th time on this thread, they had NO reason not to hop other than being stubborn and wanting to put us at a disadvantage.
And by hopping over, you put them at a disadvantage - the DCs clearly showed that. Apart from being stubborn, by RK staying in world 81 to fight they were actually fighting by rules that were set.
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Anyhow we won with 8 remaining and I had to leave early (because it took so long to start) so I really don't think the outcome would have changed either way.
Most fights end with 50-60% of one sides people remaining, but in this case it was blatantly a lot closer because of the DCs. RK were actually ahead by 2 at the 16-14 stage and in a 20v20, that basically means victory however RK suffered a DC letting BT come back to even it out since you killed your target at the same time. So actually 8 people is very little especially from a big fight like this lol. Had BT won with maybe 25-30 remaining, I would have said the DCs would have made no difference but since you ended with only 8, they obviously did.
So on from that, the DCs affected the fight by a clear mile. Considering that the rules had been agreed upon by all parties, agreeing on 81, and then BT haggled (so basically breaking being late for disqualification and not fighting in the world designated) resulted in the DCs being one of the BIG reasons RK lost, without them, I would have bet that RK would have won this.
In my honest opinion, do a RM. Had W134 been originally agreed upon, then fine, gratz BT. But it wasn't, you refused to war in 81 which you agreed on in the rules (so your fault for accepting) and when you lag because your officials didn't check the world first you expect the world to revolve around you and get the world changed? Your clan broke the world rule and the lateness rule - considering yourselves lucky you weren't DQd.
Ever heard of people being out of food because they've been sniped out/piled earlier in the fight? Lol.
Ever heard of being on time and fighting agreed upon rules? Lol.
We were on time, we even went to world 81. That world was bad so we hopped away asking for a better world.
The fight didn't start on time, you hopped away therefore you delaying the start of the war and you still didn't fight on the agreed war world.
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Anyhow we won with 8 remaining and I had to leave early (because it took so long to start) so I really don't think the outcome would have changed either way.
Most fights end with 50-60% of one sides people remaining, but in this case it was blatantly a lot closer because of the DCs. RK were actually ahead by 2 at the 16-14 stage and in a 20v20, that basically means victory however RK suffered a DC letting BT come back to even it out since you killed your target at the same time. So actually 8 people is very little especially from a big fight like this lol. Had BT won with maybe 25-30 remaining, I would have said the DCs would have made no difference but since you ended with only 8, they obviously did.
So on from that, the DCs affected the fight by a clear mile. Considering that the rules had been agreed upon by all parties, agreeing on 81, and then BT haggled (so basically breaking being late for disqualification and not fighting in the world designated) resulted in the DCs being one of the BIG reasons RK lost, without them, I would have bet that RK would have won this.
In my honest opinion, do a RM. Had W134 been originally agreed upon, then fine, gratz BT. But it wasn't, you refused to war in 81 which you agreed on in the rules (so your fault for accepting) and when you lag because your officials didn't check the world first you expect the world to revolve around you and get the world changed? Your clan broke the world rule and the lateness rule - considering yourselves lucky you weren't DQd.
Ever heard of people being out of food because they've been sniped out/piled earlier in the fight? Lol.
Ever heard of being on time and fighting agreed upon rules? Lol.
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Anyhow we won with 8 remaining and I had to leave early (because it took so long to start) so I really don't think the outcome would have changed either way.
Most fights end with 50-60% of one sides people remaining, but in this case it was blatantly a lot closer because of the DCs. RK were actually ahead by 2 at the 16-14 stage and in a 20v20, that basically means victory however RK suffered a DC letting BT come back to even it out since you killed your target at the same time. So actually 8 people is very little especially from a big fight like this lol. Had BT won with maybe 25-30 remaining, I would have said the DCs would have made no difference but since you ended with only 8, they obviously did.
So on from that, the DCs affected the fight by a clear mile. Considering that the rules had been agreed upon by all parties, agreeing on 81, and then BT haggled (so basically breaking being late for disqualification and not fighting in the world designated) resulted in the DCs being one of the BIG reasons RK lost, without them, I would have bet that RK would have won this.
In my honest opinion, do a RM. Had W134 been originally agreed upon, then fine, gratz BT. But it wasn't, you refused to war in 81 which you agreed on in the rules (so your fault for accepting) and when you lag because your officials didn't check the world first you expect the world to revolve around you and get the world changed? Your clan broke the world rule and the lateness rule - considering yourselves lucky you weren't DQd.
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Gratz on your win BT; in future if you agree to a war world which you agreed upon in the rules, try actually living up to them and fighting there. I'm surprised RK, after waiting 20 minutes didn't decide to claim victory as there was a 15 minute lateness cap too lol.
as far as im aware and what was said, no world was discussed, perhaps photo's may say something different.
Yes, pictures do say different.
Oh well, was an enjoyable war to watch, gratz.
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I watched it, shame it was delayed by like 20 minutes because of TT+BK haggling over a pre-set and agreed upon war world. Resulted in RK having at least 3 DCs, one being a sniper they managed to KO and another later on to tie it up.
Was an interesting fight, very close and was in both sides favor at least twice each, unfortunately the DC right at the very end at 16-14 to RK cost them the lead and eventually the victory.
Thought I'd edit in that Merked05 and Z 14 deserve real props for between them, they bought NBK+TR back from a 3 man deficit. As RossM above me said, to come back from so many DCs and a few KOs to a point of winning but finally to lose to only 9 men is quite a feat.
Gratz on your win BT; in future if you agree to a war world which you agreed upon in the rules, try actually living up to them and fighting there. I'm surprised RK, after waiting 20 minutes after your arriving, logging out and refusing to war on that world, didn't decide to claim victory as there was also a rule that if you are 15 mins late to war you would get DQ'd lol.
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I'll answer your questions first:
Do you want your clan to particiapte in the 2010 Jagex Cup?
Yes.
If not, why not?
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Would you consider being in an alliance for Jagex Cup wars?
If we got to chose yes, but I wouldn't if it was random pairing - it would be sods law that we'd be stuck with some RSB clan with no clue at all.
How would you change the Jagex Cup to make it more challenging/enjoyable? (Eg. category changes, rule changes)
I would add more categories to make it more diverse.
Away from all that, I have access to the Leader board on RSB and there is a stickied topic in there with a lot of information that Jagex are planning for this cup.
I'm not allowed to leak any information off that particular forum. What I guess I can say is that there will be the same 3 Cups as last year, Skilling, Combined and Combat. Looking closer at the Combat Cup, rules are the same as last year so not great secret being kept there - full out war etc - which you can sign up for. More interestingly however they've decided to include (currently) 6 different sub categories, one of which you can sign up for AS WELL as the main cups and the 6 do include a range of different caps.
So basically, they are doing what they did last year but also including some sub categories, one of which you can enter as well as the main cup itself.
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Gratz NG, solid ending despite TT leaving.
TT vs LPT should be very interesting.
[TWR] Dragonwood Defeats Ak Latin
in Wars & Run-Ins
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Thanks for the fight. Had you not sent snipers, you would have won. Your main pile would have probably KOed more people and we would have not had easy transitions and some easy KOs off them either.
Was pretty intense, piled 3 times, died once.
Didn't die!