Jasper98

started off with word to word with friends, and RSC/ Tip it Ads but hm.. we have sigs too but we don't get enough people to post around thats a good idea though.

Would like to know other clan's ideas / thoughts about what to do if they were to "mass recruit" My clan recently broke off of a merge we recently arranged, which worked out for a month, until the other clan's leader decided to just call it off, so we're back to our small memberlist again. In my opinion, we tried to fight off being a small clan by making a merge, we've done 2 merges and now just know merges don't really work out well. What is your idea with mass recruiting? How did your clan start off building numbers quickly?

We did have a significant advantage, though the reason for those rules were so we didn't have to drop too many, encouraging [bleep] to pull more. In terms of levels it wasn't really close as our lowest level was 99 and yours was...117? Though much respect for the clean fight, look forward for one in the future. clean fight indeed, although our lowest was 103. yours was 99, not much of a difference and legendz had a bunch of high levels as well, not too big of a level gap here

yes perhaps a +2 or +3 would have been WAY more fair. We talked in the IRC and you thought our levels would be way stronger than yours, but it reality, after you cut we were about the same. Nonetheless, good war I guess your number advantage gave you good ko's and I can't say we coulda won or blame anyone, my side actually got 1 hitted several times( :thumbdown: ) Most of us did not like "3 man ranger and 3 man sniper" cap rule, we just thought it was really dumb in general. Plus LGZ was bind sniping us pretty much a few minutes into the war where our numbers dropped, I let it go, but that is classified as "sniping" even though you are not doing damage, you are preventing us from dealing damage.

Are you agreeing that Final K0 did infact was mass snipping? If yes, then maybe you should term it something fancy like you were using "CENTER TACTICS" or "MASS TRANSITIONS" lol, mass snipping is termed center tactics in here :) If no, then it's going to be hard for LH to prove mass snipping especially in arena's like classics. GF [bleep]. I was not there, and no I don't even know how they were accusing us of mass sniping, I hear we were just piling them and downing them fast till we took a 13v10 lead and they ran? Maybe they mean by "mass sniping" we were using ranged on the pile, thats what someone told me, and I see nothing wrong with that if ranged was called on in the war and LH did not declare a cap or such. Seems they just left because they were getting dominated, I guess they would not have left if they had a lead

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Link to the declaration: http://forum.tip.it/topic/257447-twr-final-declare-on-lost-heaven/ Winning clan (both name + initials): Final Ko [[bleep]] Winning clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=fkwarlist Losing clan (both name + initials): Lost Heaven (LH) Losing clan's member-list: http://runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=antex123 Starting/ending ops of both clans (screenshot is valid proof): Specific declarations: What type of war? (matched, full-out, 15v15, etc) 25 v 25 Date for War: Any date. Either this weekend or next. Time for war: Any time from 3:30 EST-7:30 EST Rings allowed? Yes Stage/Location: CWA classic mid bounds Ranged Allowed? Yes Corrupt? No, discussable if desired What type of magic allowed? Binds only this is when they all left Sorry, we couldn't get an ending pic, they all just disappeared too fast (mass kick from CC?) Sorry, I was not at this war, but I believe my clan says Lost Heaven says, "You guys were mass sniping". According to the war topic, there is nothing forbidding mass sniping. I wasn't there to watch the war, but its a forfeit from LH. Good war? p.s. keep topic flame free.

indeed I let TO pick this world

:lol: We had firm control of the fight anyway as we had you binded hard and being dragged badly. I personally would like to see a video because I remember dropping at least 19 of you. An apology would be nice for such strong allegations. :thumbup: if you want a vid, ask thetateman25? I'm not sure who vidded it but its not on youtube, so I can't put a link. And if you want me to apologize sure I guess I wasn't accusing you guys of anything, one of my members just pointed out something he caught in a picture of TO and just how it somehow links to us DCing

there is no way you had as much DC's as us I watched a war vid of it you didn't get any DCs in the beginning we just dropped 2 (+1 DC)of you guys by the time you dropped 1 of us, making the score 19-19, then we got another DCer making us lose our tie, and another DC during the war and one last one at 6-10, But yea I think one of our members pmed a mod about the DDos thing I told no one to post it on this topic just not to start flame baits, and keep it a private thing with the mods, but guess someone already posted it, could've been a joke, but many of our members who never DC just happened to DC on this war, idk

a 15v15? I called matched if we pulled more, we pulled 25, some of us gave up work / planned events for this war, and we get a forfeit

they say they had another war earlier, but I negotiated with one of them, they said they were hours gap to our war. Therefore we called rings off, as they've used it earlier, by far I don't see 2 wars in a day a problem, i'm sure plenty of clans have done 2-3 wars in a day, probably more, we've done 3 in a day before, its a hassle, but we try to make it. By far I don't know why they bailed out

Link to the declaration: http://forum.tip.it/topic/257759-twr-final-ko-declare-on-divine-vindicators/ Winning clan (both name + initials): Final Ko ([bleep]) Winning clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=fkwarlist Losing clan (both name + initials): Divine Vindicators (DV) Losing clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=Divine_v Starting/ending ops of both clans (screenshot is valid proof): Our pull at war time: We had 5 more people on, but they decided not to mass due to DV bailing out

good job on the binds T0 i must say impressive, although our 6 DCs heavily cost us the lost. Starting at 20v22 due to 2 DCs already, we caught it up, and then had more DCs to drop us down. Maybe a rematch next time?

This weekend, it seems like every clan I challenge is booked, so would see if any clan would like to challenge Final Ko to a short notice war anytime 3:30-7:30 EST on Saturday Feb 6? http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=fkwarlist We shall discuss rules. Post here if you are interested in warring this saturday

I am very sorry about the pull AK-Latin, very disappointing, I was expecting 15+ every saturday, it's been like that every week for months, ceot this one. Mostly because all of our leaders were gone, one on vacation, and I wasn't home today, no warlords on, no teamspeak either :/ Nonetheless, seems Final Ko put up a good fight for the level difference :] Hoping to rematch again as soon as possible AK.

No we have 16 120s, you have 35 120s. Thats more than our whole ML. And by number advantage I didn't mean +1/+2 if you were thinking that, was saying you were gonna way outpull us too, therefore giving you the pick of your best members, but soz was a poor choice to declare on us on sunday, we get bout 2x less ppl Nonetheless, GF =D>

at first this war looked like DF vs. [bleep] :D

Alot of our members know VR, one of our ex-members got us a TS but then he quit and joined VR, telling us we can keep that server, but later he just let VR in and they kicked us out

GF as well to you, maybe I guess whoever declared wanted a war with level/number advantage. But goodfight, poor performance from us this time, the first time we fought you guys 11-11 we ended up 3-0 or somethin, or 2-0 it was pretty close fight

GF downfall. If you were wondering why were mass sniping it was cuz our FI leader dced and we our TS got taken by VR

sorry for the misundertsand if you thought I was saying we won though :mellow: , like I said I admitted this win was for DF but you went out of bounds, and alot of other wars we have either lost / nulled the war just a little "misclick"

I'm asking for a null, I was just using their format

he didn't go further, he out of bounds, and went around I believe, but he was out of bounds for a while, just not one click but several seconds out of bounds

Link to the declaration: http://forum.tip.it/topic/254268-downfall-declares-on-final-k0/ Winning clan (both name + initials): [bleep] (due to bounds by downfall) Winning clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=final_ko Losing clan (both name + initials): DF Losing clan's member-list: http://www.runehead.com/clans/ml.php?clan=downfall Starting/ending ops of both clans (screenshot is valid proof): Bad pull from [bleep], we generally pull about 10 less on sundays :/ I apologize for the bad pull. Downfall took the first kill, great binds, lots of rangers from them, and they kept it even til 8v9 and [bleep] dropped down to nothing from there. Ended up with our fall-in leader dcing (buddyswift), leaving no leader and no teamspeak (down all week). Win would have obviously been Downfall's, but sadly one of their members, "Lovelost" went out of bounds. Another pic we got- slightly going out of bounds