You only se them as a problem because you cannot afford to do it - anyone that can afford to do it does it, it's just hard luck I'm afraid Mage > Melee. Can you freeze someone for 20 seconds with melee without risking a 29m ZGS? Can you stop someone from teleing with Melee? Mage is infinately more useful than mage, maybe not Edge DM'ing, but you said PVM in general in which case a Hybrid Mage/Range would be far more effective. Agreed, but why would jagex address 8% of their audience. Sure the odd one now and again wouldn't hurt, but people will complain about updates for as long as they come out. Who uses f2p magic?! You can do Rune DMs, I've never seen a mager fight anyone seriously in a DM, but they help in big fights binding (which isn't that high a requirement) Could you give an example? None of the quests I've done have been badly scripted. The humour is basic, but that is deliberate - it's laughing at itself. Hope these gave answers to your someone useless rant ~Cracky
