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This is the point here. Instead of attacking us about WHY it's there, show us WHY it actually isn't needed, rather then attacking the users/staff about something that doesn't even have a relevence about your posting style. Google Translate helped me out pretty easily right there. Also, I've said this countless times. The reason I want this removed is the redundancy of the rule.

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The dogs die from trying to bite the wall. The wall laughs at them. 34 HP.

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Cite examples? A point like that is useless without examples.

The wall does not feel pain and hurt. 35 HP.

Redundancy again. Translation defeats the purpose of saying it in the foreign language. If people want to put foreign languages in their signature then I personally would say go wild. This brings us back to the "all" option.

And what's so hard to understand about "so we ruled out letting people speak exclusively in foreign languages, why not forbid it all together?" You said it yourself (might not be you but some other mod/admin). If they're on here then they should be able to speak/understand English to a certain degree. We listen to outside opinions, but an outside opinion isn't always right and your opinion seems to be... hmm, it seems I kind of got distracted by the pointless debating and don't know what your original point was anymore. Was it that we should allow foreign languages, making an already difficult job of moderation even moreso? And we don't act surprised, if you think this is surprised then you have a poor grasp of emotions. And I'd like to think that the Moderator Spotlight and recent Administrator Spotlight gave plenty of transparency, as is appropriate, to what members need to know. The rule that we currently have is both reasonable and rather well suited to how we operate. It's balanced, fair and not a big deal - I think this is easy enough to see without 'transparency'. That's the same logic Jagex uses, and look at them.

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That's got to be one of the largest anti-innovation quotes ever. Like I said, online translation tools are extremely invaluable, even if garbage at times. Still, it gives you a good enough idea of the thing being said. It was conditional, and theoretical. to number 2.) According to the info Racheya posted, it took a while to verify it. If there were so many reports, it should have been handled quickly. Either that or the mods just didn't get to it in time. I didn't bother replying to your "theoretical" questions because I don't care about theoretical possibilities. You seem determined to debate just for debate's sake and I don't intend to waste my time. It took a long time to verify because we needed to be sure that what was posted was actually offensive. This took a long time as it wasn't in English. Not care for theoretical situations? Is this how you run this place?

Agreeing with Goon here. Once you join you'll probably get more fit so the tattoo, if you want to get it on your chest, would be [bleep]ed up. Maybe your back.

If you want freedom of expression then why don't you just abate the translation policy? However, we've ruled that out, unless you want a repeal. You already know why we can't do that. We do want freedom of expression but you have to weigh the pros and cons. There are more cons than pros with allowing foreign languages with no translation. Pros: Users don't have to bother writing a translation when they post in a foreign language. Cons: Discussion is fragmented and exclusive. As previously stated, all of our users speak English, but many don't speak any other language. If someone starts a discussion in another language, all the English-only speakers are left out. If someone contributes to an English discussion in another language, very few people who are already participating in the discussion will be able to understand that post. There is a good chance that it would be ignored all together. Moderators would not be able to moderate posts in a foreign language. There's no way for them to know if what is being said is appropriate or inappropriate. Yes they can use a translator, but translators are often very inaccurate, especially when it comes to inappropriate content (vulgar language, etc.). Many translators don't even translate things like swear words. And it would be very time-consuming and irksome for moderators to have to translate every post. It shouldn't be difficult for users to provide a translation. We know they speak English at least reasonably well, otherwise they wouldn't be on an English-speaking fan site to begin with. This rule is not going to change, as there is no need for us to change it. So we ruled out the "all" and added some overkill. So "nothing" is the option, like I have stated before. The main reason of why I started this topic because of the redundancy in the rule. Why not make it so that, save for quotes in a foreign language, disallow foreign languages in discussions in a general sense? Sure, it limits the expression part, but since we've ruled out letting users speak entirely in a foreign language, it's either stay or disallow all foreign languages, and I strongly disagree with keeping the current rule.

oh thats the plan, getting it beforehand would be like bragging before you're even on the Winning team. @comical: interesting idea, I was also thinking maybe instead of a tally get a tiny skull for each. Skulls would be too awkward. Rib bones are subtle but straight to the point. E: Of course, you could also add a skull onto the scythe each time you kill a terrorist.

How about at the start, have the reaper not have any rib bones and just a spine and for each terrorist killed add a rib bone?

Death got Death. :thumbup:

If you want freedom of expression then why don't you just abate the translation policy? However, we've ruled that out, unless you want a repeal.

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Then why don't you disallow foreign languages all together? You say you can speak the mother tongue with a translation... rendering the ability to speak in the mother tongue redundant. I don't know why it's so hard to comprehend my point. Sure, we've ruled out the "all", that leaves the "nothing" part.

But we simply cannot allow posts in a completely different language. There are two issues here: English is the primary language of this forum. If we allowed people to speak in other languages, it would greatly fragment discussions. Moderation. Forum moderators and administrators need to be able to understand everything that is being said. If no translation is provided, we have no way of knowing if what is being said is actually appropriate. Nobody said we couldn't change that. Lest there be a technical barrier we can easily change that. I'd like to know who's in charge of this cartel forum. Ever heard of Google Translate? Sure, it can be complete garbage at times but it helps. Maybe a way to integrate it into the forums.