hi, i'm not sure if you have noticed but, the price for climbing boots has increased therefore rendering the quest details wrong (as it would with troll romance.) yours faithfully mightymark1 p.s your site is awesome also, if you stand directly infront of the gate when fighting dad he can't hit you. you can also stand 2 steps west of the ladders and range/mage the troll general as he cannot move from there.