Thank you - he did- ya know- for the record this happened while he wasn't playing for a long time- so it wasn't that I wasn't monitoring- he'd been playing Wow and thus I was monitoring that one- when he went back to play here- he'd diiscovered what happened- i didn't really appreciate the comments about me not doing my job "correctly" didn't expect that from these forums either- I was asking for help and get dogged- kinda sucked- and felt uncalled for- wasn't my fault in the first place and I was looking for help- besides he's 15 too- how many 15 year olds out there are that good with their mom's- my kid is- he's a good kid- the other person is the jerk not us- just say'n not at you K- I appreciate what you said- thank you-