I finished monkey madness a week or two ago so that's not an issue. I'll be training exclusively via slayer so there will be a mixup of monsters and I'm not going to use the zerk neck + sword combo for that. Also I'm not concerned with training strength at all, I will most likely keep my stats around 70 50 90 to stake with and 90+ range to pk. But if scim only has a +8 bonus to stab wouldn't the longsword be way better for training attack to 80 or is that a typo?