TeenageLoser: Well, then GJ shading ( I geuss), but it looks like a gradient, there's no lightsource. Stick with many less shades.. :wink: Lowgravity: I dunno, Just work on it. Yes, I meant the inside of the helmet. :wink: N4k: Here'sthe reference pic. You can match them up, and you'll see. :P( No it wasn't traced, lol) -Zim