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From most atheists point of view yes that would be considered greed, but like stated in my and astralinre's post those that believe in god believe that because it was he that made all he also has the truth to all and that worshiping and following him results in perssonal gain. If you read our posts again you may see astralinre's point of view, not to say you'd agree with it but atleast see where he's coming from.

That confirms what I thought your point was, and indeed it is a good one, yet it just further proves my point that those who believe in god will have your view and those whom dont will not be able to understand them, for the most part.

How am I being confusing?

What his point is that because if he existed then his powers would overide this I think seing as he made it. An example would be if you bought a cat or any pet it would'nt be greedy to wish for them to do what you wanted, like I said being an atheist aswell I cannot fully grasp what he is saying.

Im indiferent, I really think its up to every person to decide if it would be considered greed if God wished for everyone to worship him. On one side it is the arguement that if he wants EVERYONE to follow him and do what he wants then obviously he is greedy. The other arguement that Astralinre is holding up is that if he created the universed he deserves the worship and doing so will result in your personnal gain. Both good arguements but it obviously depends if you beleive in God or not. Because if you dont then all you would see is a nonexistant being asking for every existing being's worship. If you do beleive in him you would find it reasonable that something that created you and everything recieve your worship. Which is why I dont think *most* atheists cant understand Astralinre's point. Please note that when I say him it is reffering to God, I simply use this because it sounds better than it. Also note I am an atheist, my views on this topic are a few posts up.

Sorry, but since when is God greedy? Im pretty sure their reffering to him wanting everyones worship and not wishing anyone to worship a "false" god. Ok, thanks. Now the reference to the first commandment makes sense. :) The Biblical God is not greedy for commanding us to worship Him alone, as it is for our happiness and His glory that he does so. I believe that those two things are not at odds, but rather that they are the same. I've got to go to dinner, but when I get back I'll back up that statement. Watch this space. Please note I don't feel that way, I was jsut stating what Im 99% sure they were reffering to.

Sorry, but since when is God greedy? Im pretty sure their reffering to him wanting everyones worship and not wishing anyone to worship a "false" god.

Well assuming your saying that we would live forever like in the christian religion or be condemned to hell I would simply wish to be erased from existence altogether. Because if that were the case we would: 1.Be sentenced to an eternity of hell, the peak of suffering, a torture without an end yet you still could not die. 2. Waste your life praying to God and abiding by all the rules set by him and be accepted into heaven, which is actually worse than death to me. I dont care if its the greatest place and you cant die, after the first 100000000000 trillion years it would grow old and you would wish to be erased aswell. If you are'nt reffering to God as being the one from christianity or a similar religion than perhaps it would be one like Brahman(cant be sure of spelling) a God that you must work to become part of. And I dont know about anyone else but I dont want to go through lives just to become part of a spirit. Unless it was a God whom granted you and only you the ability to remove yourself from existence or even better, made us want to live forever(for those whom feel like me) would I be happy.

The one you have is'nt bad. If you want I think I could find some neat scripts.

Its jsut one of those annoying questions, like what caused the big bang. It's rather pointless to ponder.

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