There are 61 member servers with an average of 800-900 players on at a time. (52K) There are 71 freeplay worlds with an average of 1200 players. (85K) That's at a time where most Americans are at school and most Australians are asleep, but since the numbers are linear, we'd get the same results on peak times. So actually, it would be more like 15% - not 10. I'm rounding up because a large deal of the f2p are always at full capacity and you can't include the average of those worlds in excel. To adress your answers: 1) Ever considered that one of the reasons the RS clan system is so popular is because it isn't official? We don't need Jagex's interference, in fact, I'm glad they don't interfere. 2) I'm lvl100 on RSC, 124 on RS2 (have been maxed out for almost 2 years now) so I know how it feels to reach these goals. Back in RSC I would've strongly agreed with you, but now? There is so much more variety in RS now, and don't say WoW never gets repetitive either because most of the quests there are terribly boring, similar to the quests we got on RS 2 years ago. Bring "x" amount of to . RS has PoH's, many more skills apart from combat, constant updates and one of the most interesting PvP aspects. WoW has great Players versus monsters fights, they have great graphics, characters look completely different etc. So yes, both have their strong points and both can be played in a thousand ways. If you find a mmorpg that much of tiring grind, blame your lack of creativity, not the game. 3) Forums keep you in touch with the game while also enhancing the social aspects of the game. As far that is concerned, from what I've heard players on WoW are generally a lot more polite but at the same time, very boring because you don't have the chance to get to know many of them like you do on Rs. Oh and just because you consider yourself an experienced player of RS doesn't mean you, and only you are right about this. I'm just as experienced as you, I've been playing this game far longer than 90% of the people reading this and unlike many, I don't go with the mainstream and actually have my own opinion. My opinion about WoW, however, is mainly based on the opinions of people I know, both from Rs and irl. They all tell me the quests are boring and they all tell me the PvP is useless, so there must be something true about it, correct? But yeah, to each his own like you said. Personally I don't have the time or dedication to start all over again with a mmorpg and yes, I've tried WoW before but it simply doesn't appeal to me. And fyi, as I clearly stated in my last post, I didn't mean to bash you but you did sound a bit like one of those Nintendo/Sony/Xbox fanboys who'd rather die than to admit there are some flaws in their systems.