well i guess maybe i should speak up here... 1st of all... i for one stand by livin's decision.. a wife and child are more than a sufficient reason to quit a GAME. Anything in RL takes precedence over a 2d/3d game. 2nd he made a post recently on the RSD forums that he was comtemplating quitting RS. A few of us felt this was coming.. i for one pretty much expected it. I just didn't think it would come so soon. 3rdly to all former RSD people who are kind of upset... i understand where you are coming from. But please.. try to work with us.. we will do our best to get a new clan up and running. Sure. We may hit a few bumps in the road in the beginning, but in the long run, it'll be worth it. 4th I am impressed with the fact that a lot of formore RSD people aren't jumping to DI or any other clan but are willing to work on a new one with us. That just shows me how strong the bond in RSD really is.. anyway.. enough out of me.. i wish livin the best. And i stand by his decision 110%.