Tijger2099
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They are reffering to expensive slayer gear such as godswords and bandos plate/skirt. The point is, do not use them!
For my body, plate and weapon I spent less than 1.5m on gear. For weapon use a whip, it outsmarts any godsword by far, it's cheap. People who use GS's use it mainly as it show off, without realizing the true power of the abbysal whip and without thinking what else they could've done with their money.
Same thing for the body and plate, all you need is a fighter's torso, a black dragon hide body and prostelyte legs and a body. You use prostelyte legs on all of your tasks so you can use 10% str pray throughout the entire task at extremely low costs. The body comes into place for tasks where you are praying melee non stop, such as mutated bloodvelds and darkbeasts. You should use the black dragonhide body for Waterfiend tasks. The fighter's torso should be used on any tasks where you do not use the prostelyte body or dragonhide body.
For jewellry possibilities are endless, you could use a glory and ring of wealth if you aren't too rich. If you however got a lot of money to spend you could use it on a fury and berserker ring.
The reason why I do not use an incredible expensive armour is because it is useless, and the money spent on expensive armour can be used much more efficiently. Save millions on armour and you will have millions more gp to merchant! Just 2,5 months ago when I started slaying at 90 slayer (99 now) I had only 40m, now I have 165m at my disposal. Just because I chose my slayer gear wisely and spent under 5 minutes a day merchanting!
PS. The rest of the armour is pretty obvious, RFD gloves, dragon boots, slayer helmet/black mask and a rune defender.
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Used to be roughly 30 hours a week, now it's under 5 as I'm really getting bored of this game and only play it when I feel like it.
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Another update that makes Runescape, that was supposed to be a MULTIPLAYER game, into a SINGLE player game in which interaction with other players made more and more uninteresting.
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Very nice guide! The best I've seen out thus far!
I've gotten 99 slayer just a month ago and it was the first 99 which gave me so much satisfaction, 99 slayer is many people's long term goal, mines as well. Looking up to people with 99 slayer was always such a pain and unbelievable, but now that I've gotten it it feels so much better :)
PS: For the cannonable tasks, you might like to add the abberant spectres. You did specify that you could cannon them after the Smokey Well quest but you didn't incorporate them in the list on the bottom of your guide.
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I don't read them at all, I simply can't be bothered. The dialogues that I have read were not entertaining at all, they were just lame. If I am really interested in an exciting story I'll just read a novel, watch a movie or play a real videogame.
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i think you fail at merchanting since you're buying at MAX w/out a clan rofl
I don't think I fail at merchanting, turning 50m into 165m in only 3 months solo merchanting is quiet decent. Also, this was an exceptional case, normally I'm buying items either way for lowest or around med price. In this case I was talking about elite sets, I managed to get 135 full sets, I had to buy for max cause else I wouldn't get them. Either way, I made 30k a set in just 2 days, I think it was worth it.
OT: Feel free to lock this post as my question has already been answered several times.
Thanks!
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30 mins ye ;)
Was that in or out of a hotspot??
And what bank were you at in your second vid.. I've been racking my brain trying to figure it out.
Ardougne South
Anyway nice vid, better then me, and why not use Drop Fixing instead of PvP Trick?
drop fixing? i havent heard of this term before, can you explain please?
Neither have I, and as I'm using the PvP trick quiet often I'd really like to know what this other method (?) is.
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Dragon Full helm from a mithril dragon, on my first ever kill on the very same day they were released, I surely belong to the first five or so to get it.
Even though demand was 100 times higher than the supply, I was forced to sell it for 25,5m after 3 hours of intensive selling. Just 30 minutes before Jagex decided to remove the safe spots to mage the dragons, resulting in the price skyrocketing to 80m. They did so just 30min too late or I would have been much richer, I was still incredibly lucky though!
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I remember training 55-99 slayer in a month was a pain haha, though you are far from the first to get it it's still takes a lot of dedication to max it out!
Now move to slayer and maxe out your other combat stats!
7,5/10
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One of the most respected 99's to date, and for a good reason!
Congratulations and good luck on your future goals!
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I looked through your post twice, and never saw the numbers specifically for waterfiends. Do you have some sort of chart I could look at with your numbers so I could test individual tasks?
Like I said, I've lost all of the information. I only remember the total statistics, so the average amount of money per hour for all tasks, the average exp per hour for all tasks etc. I can only guess to the average xp per hour for waterfiends, but then those statistics would be unreliable.
I might be continue slayer anytime soon when I get bored of skilling, if I will do so, I will do my best effort to record everything (inventories, money, exp rates etc. etc.), save it well and publish it in this thread ;)
Nonetheless, I still feel slayer is an awesome skill that never gets boring, and therefore definitely sucks, whatever you say :D
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I've sold my computer and bought a new laptop two weeks ago, so the data from every task I lost, but the exp rates on overall ever since 78 are the final results in over 600 tasks of recording data. Also I'd like to point out that I haven't tested out how much summ xp an hour I will get, so that will have to be added to the already mentioned combat exp rates for each hour.
I permanently skipped all of the metal dragons, and besides that I skipp everything except from waterfiends, abberant spectres, abbysal demons, dark beasts, dagannoths, black demons, bloodvelds and spiritual mages. I cannon at Abberant spectres, dagannoths and the mutated bloodvelds, significantly boosting my exp rates.
Also, I used 10% or 15% str prayer on all the task I do, except from the waterfiends tasks, creating another significant boost. For summoning I can say that I use a geyser titan quiet frequently where possible, but like the person above me mentioned, from the Overlord and up the familiars can give you a very decent increase in slayer exp per hour.
There's not much more I can say. Once again, I've lost all of the data for each individual tasks, but the exp rates I mentioned in my post before are the precize numbers that I've calculated from all the individual data.
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I'm sorry, but numbers are set. We have input from a 91 slayer, two 84 slayers, and the 31st ranked slayer. All have been carefully tested; just because you've trained something doesn't mean you've TESTED it. I firmly believe our numbers are accurate to within +-1k; I can show you evidence from every single task. Same goes for profit; it's not something you can guess at.
Just because you assume I haven't tested things out because my numbers are different than yours doesn't mean I haven't tested. I actually have, the numbers I've used are fairly accurate. From 78 slayer onwards I averaged at 85.9k combat xp an hour all the way till 99 slayer. You said you kept on skipping metal dragon tasks, well I permanently skipped them as soon as the update was released, hence why your exp rates are lower than mines.
Also the drops are fairly accurate, at 75 slayer I could still make 100k an hour easily, in the level 90's I could do 200k without any trouble. I averaged at 184k gp an hour since 78 slayer. Now I know it's just my own data, and one person's data ain't enough to come up with a theory, but neither is the four people that you are referring too. To come up with a coherent theory you will need data from a few thousand people at least, the value of my data compared to the data of the four guys you've used doesn't really differ much on this scale.
Just because you spend hundreds (and hundreds) of hours to make 150k-200k an hour does not mean it was worth it. If you make that much after hundreds of hours, what could you have gotten in those hundreds of hours?
I'm afraid you missed my point, I have never said whether I thought it was worth it or not (afterall 99 slayer was worth it, for the only reason that it was my long term goal, not for the money or anything related). What I was saying to the creater of this thread though is that I haven't experienced any of the above mentioned situations, and therefore doubt his conclusions. Once again I'm just an individual, but that isn't much different from the four people he has used for his statistics, assuming we would need data from thousands of people to come to a somewhat more trustworthy conclusion.
I mean, you do mention the four people you've used the data from, but you haven't mentioned the thousands of people that have the same levels as your 4 friends, and yet do have completely different rates.
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I'm sorry, but numbers are set. We have input from a 91 slayer, two 84 slayers, and the 31st ranked slayer. All have been carefully tested; just because you've trained something doesn't mean you've TESTED it. I firmly believe our numbers are accurate to within +-1k; I can show you evidence from every single task. Same goes for profit; it's not something you can guess at.
Just because you assume I haven't tested things out because my numbers are different than yours doesn't mean I haven't tested. I actually have, the numbers I've used are fairly accurate. From 78 slayer onwards I averaged at 85.9k combat xp an hour all the way till 99 slayer. You said you kept on skipping metal dragon tasks, well I permanently skipped them as soon as the update was released, hence why your exp rates are lower than mines.
Also the drops are fairly accurate, at 75 slayer I could still make 100k an hour easily, in the level 90's I could do 200k without any trouble. I averaged at 184k gp an hour since 78 slayer. Now I know it's just my own data, and one person's data ain't enough to come up with a theory, but neither is the four people that you are referring too. To come up with a coherent theory you will need data from a few thousand people at least, the value of my data compared to the data of the four guys you've used doesn't really differ much on this scale.
One new thing I'd like to point out, you are comparing an alternative, slower way of training with armour zombies, which drop nothing but bones. Isn't it much of an unfair comparison in this case, especially if you are someone who is all about exp rates, slayer can never win from NPC's with 'awesome' exp rates but no/few drops.
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I'm very sorry to say this, but after having spent hundreds of hours on slayer I'm quiet sure I can give a more appropiate view on the skill then you can.
I have no clue where you got the exp rates from but it makes absolutely no sense at all, with near maxed out stats I reached 110k xp an hour with (90k if I don't count the slayer exp), which is not too much difference from the 110k you mentioned, and above all you are training an extra skill at the same time.
Getting new tasks or changing tasks takes some time (don't forget changing took a lot more time before the update, and that's how I got most of my slayer exp. The slayer helmet or black mask makes up for the 'loss' of time changing tasks or getting new tasks, the extra 15% for every hit you make really adds up!
Then theirs the money making rate, I will agree with you mostly that before 83 slayer you will hardly get over 100k an hour. However, tasks such as abberant spectres can still add up quiet a lot with all the herb drops. You said that after 83 slayer the money making rate won't go up much, but trust me it does. I'm 99 slayer now, but even after 83 slay I averaged at making 200k gp each hour! (And no, I'm not really lucky with drops at all, I only got 12 whips on the way till 99 whereas many people get near 40, but allright, forget about that). It's not just the whip/dark bow/dragon boots drop that you've to take into account, pure essence, herbs, herb seeds, rune items etc. etc. can still give you a sweet 200k profit each hour, or somewhere near it. You might not earn a lot of money at a low slayer level, but neither can you make a lot of money with level 54 runecrafting can you, yet it's called one of the best money-making skills to date, if you are level 91 that is...See the comparison? Also, do not forget that slayer isn't fully supposed to be a money making skill in the first place, it's an alternative way of training combat, and the higher you get the more expensive drops you can get, and that also counts. Also I don't see how training combat by camping at certain monsters (with a low level in slayer) is better to make money then doing slayer, afterall you're still an apprentice slayer so abbysal demons or dark beasts are out of reach.
Besides the slayer skill brings a lot of variety to skill of combat, most people agree that camping at one type of monster all the way till maxed out combat isn't all that pleasant. Being able to switch between different monsters, traveling a few miles on the way can make the skill of combat much more enjoyable. Unlocking new monsters and meeting people who truly love the combat skill on the way really keeps you going!
What else can I say, slayer is a relatively slow skill to train, but do not forget that you are not just training slayer. Combat and hp exp stack up as you train, and so do does your cash pile. There's really a lot more that I can say about this fabulous skill but I guess you got my point.
When you are a very low level and have had this feeling to get 99 slayer someday, it really feels like a mission impossible that's awaiting you. But just start training it every once in a while, if you get bored just do something else. But once you get back to training some combat stats, don't forget to pay that slayer master a visit.
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This formula could be improved by giving every skill a certain weight, I know this discussion has been made a thousand times, but 90 runecrafting/slayer is much more valuable and admirable than 90 in a skill such as cooking.
Anyways, my ratio is 14.7
Combat 134 + Total 1982
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Non-Combat: NPC contact
Combat: Vengeance!
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would be smart if jagex did that.
no chance of that happening then
It's quiet possible that they would use that way, though it would be incredibly sneaky. They have used countless techniques in 2 years time to drain money from the game, even though they never officialy confirmed this it was clear what their purpose was.
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Construction, Summoning and many other skills/events/minigames have been introduced over the course of the last 2 years or so to supposedly decrease the amount of currency flowing through the Runescape economy, they are frequently reffered to as 'money draining' skills. Recently however I feel like I've discovered a frequently used aspect of Runescape that is used to the very same purpose, the Grand Exchange.
It all started 2 days ago when I managed to get hold of an item as a reward. It was worth quiet a decent amount of money so I ran to the Grand Exchange and tried to sell it for the minimum price. I did not manage to sell it for the lowest price for nearly 3 hours (there was no affect of the 4 hour interval in this case whatsoever), which was rather astonishing. Even though the graph in the Grand Exchange database for this item has been going down for a while, I did not expect to wait so long to sell this item (that is still rather popular) for a stunning low minimum price. This however is not the point of my discussion, it's an introduction that will help you understand the following dilemma.
It was only 36 hours later when I got the idea of merchanting the very same item that I had bought less than 2 days ago, as I predicted the graph was about to even out and go up within about 2 more days. Experiencing how hard it was for me to get rid of the same item for the minimum price only hours ago, I assumed buying the very same item would be a piece of cake. But when I put in an offer for the minium price, it got denied. I offered somewhere in between the medium and maximum price and it still got denied. And even when I put in an offer for the max price I had to wait over 5 minutes before it got sold to me.
Now normally when someone is SELLING an item in the GE for let's say 22500gp and you put in an offer for 23000gp, you get the item and the 500gp difference with it. However in my case this did not happen. I'll reveal to you that I'm talking about a set of armour that I'm merchanting, in the past 2 days I have bought a total of 60 complete sets and 70 individual parts, all together totalling 130 sets. Not a single time however did I get coins back, not a single time in 240 transactions (60+ 3x 60 parts). Normally this is quiet a possible situation, but now I find it rather awkard. Keep in mind, getting no coins in return when you're buying an item means that you bought the item for the same price as the seller put it in for, the maximum price in this case.
48 Hours ago, people who had the very same item in their bank were extremely glad if they managed to sell it for the minimum price. And now I have to believe that 240 individual offers were placed by people in the Grand Exchange for the maximum price. Those people too, obviously had recognized how the graph of the item looked and that selling it for the minimum price within 5 minutes would be an achievement on itself. And now, supposedly, 240 times an offer was placed for a price that was insane (max price), knowing that selling for the minimum price could even take days.
It is much more likely that those offers were put into the grand exchange for the medium price first, and if that did not work, the person would try and sell them for less. Or someone could have tried to sell it for the maximum price and take only a few GP off, to make sure they were a little cheaper than those who were trying to sell for the max price (if there were any) by only a few gp. In case one of these highly plausible situations occured in 240 (!) offers I should have received at least A SINGLE gp from the GE, but never did this happen. Apparently 240 offers were placed by a madman who thought he could sell an item for the total max price, knowing that he could possibly not even sell it for a minimum price.
It is likely that people have been trying to sell for the medium price and that I immediatly received it (cause I was buying for the max price), plus the cash that indicated the difference between both our offers. Know that none of this has happened a single time in 240 hours makes me anxious, anxious for a possible fact that the GE on various occasions does NOT return the offer-difference to the buyer of the item, but just makes it dissapear. You can imagine that if this happens on a large scale we are talking about large sums of money.
Now you might be thinking: 'it happened to me before that when I bought an item in the GE I got some coins in return, as it should be.' And I'll happily agree with you, cause it happens to me too frequently as well, that I get money in return cause my offer was higher than the selling offer. However, when you think back some more you will probably also remember that sometimes you are putting in a random offer for an item and get no coins in return.
Now think of this as an example, we are talking about an item worth 50,000GP med price and 55,000GP max price. You decide to put an offer in just a little over the medium price, 52,399GP. At some point the exchange is completed and you get the item, but no GP. Do you truly believe someone has been trying to sell an item for 55,000GP - 54,999GP - 54,998GP - 54,997GP ...... 52,400GP and finally 52,399GP. Because that is what the only possible situation could be in which you get no items in return. If the person would sell for the minimum price you should get 2,399GP in return, even if he/she would be trying to sell it somewhere between your offer and the minimum price, you should get at least ONE GP in return. This and the above story have happened multiple times to me, and I know you too have encountered this situation at least once if you regurlarly use the Grand Exchange, most likely multiple times.
It is time for Jagex to give more clearence about what happens to the money that indicates the difference between buying and selling prices, apparently it does work properly quiet often, but as least as many times it happens that it seems that the money has just dissapeared. Why does it not say anything about this in the Knowledge Base on Runescape's website, why have we never had anyone complaining about this? Because it's a relatively easy and sneaky way to get rid of some money in random transactions, and people will most likely not complain about it.
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Very nice! I hope I get one some day :D
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good luck with 99 slayer :thumbsup: but how u manage to rake in 100kxp a day is beyond me thats insane! :shock: 8-)
anyway only 4 more levels to go!
range cape is uber.
It's not really that hard tbh, it just requires patience and dedication. It means you should be slayering on any single minute that you are online. In the past 3 months I didn't gain any other exp other than in combat related skills and slayer itself. There's no skilling for 5 minutes in between whatsoever. Over the course of 3 months time I averaged at 100-120k xp a day. I usually ended up with around 90k during week days but I worked up towards a higher average during the weekends, when I usually got to around 150k a day, and in exceptional cases all the way up to 250k.
Trust me, if you really want this cape and are willing to do nothing else but slayer when you're online you get used to it. Getting new tasks using the NPC contact and perm skipping certain tasks are are horrible exp (metal dragons etc.), using cannons on abby spectres, bloodvelds and dagannoths, are really helpful if you are aiming at 100k exp a day.
OT: Good luck on your goal, once you get it you belong to a group of less than 3500 people that own this incredibly cape! I know how tedious slayer can be and how you feel like quitting or taking a break every single week. But the reward of owning this cape and achieveming a goal that is usually a goal you've always wanted will keep you going! Don't give up, and one day you will victor!
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Less than a week ago I reached 99 slayer and now they introduce a way to obtain slayer exp that seems much more fun. I truly hope that the exp rates are much lower than average slayer tasks, or I'll soon get responses from people '99 slayer means nothing no more, you just got it by using the minigame' :(
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Finally, you're closing in on meee!! :o
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Wowah is all I can say!!!
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Slayer! Not extremely fast but still 80k / hour and you won't regret it on the long term!