Don't worry, just return it when you are done with it.

[xvillexvalox]

The topic is borrowing.

 

In more specific terms, borrowing other's opinions.

 

 

 

Over the years in my life, one thing has annoyed me more than anything else, the lack of individual opinions.

 

 

 

And this topic, there are many sub-topics to cover.

 

 

 

Topic0.1 - Religion

 

Topic0.2 - Politics

 

Topic0.3 - Living Daily Life

 

Topic0.4 - Morals

 

Topic0.5 - Scientific Theories

 

Topic0.6 - Making Life Decisions

 

 

 

A short introduction -

 

 

 

Why is it that people don't chose their own beliefs, and when looking for beliefs, they use others, instead of creating their own to not have any discrepincies in what you believe.

 

 

 

If you believe in what you want to believe and not a specific guideline, as you come to different realizations you can change your beliefs instead of creating a unrational excuse to why "that" happened and "this" is still the right thing to believe.

 

 

 

 

 

Topic0.1 - Religion

 

Religion, this is the almighty guide book to life and towers over any other "guide" to live your life.

 

 

 

Most of the time, you are raised into a religion, and you don't get your own choice. Most of you have done research on religions in a world history class at some point, so I ask to you, what if you were to do/have that research said to you at a young age? What would you have picked? Atheisim? Hinduism? Christianity?

 

 

 

But at a young age you wouldn't know what to pick, you would probably ask what your parents are, if they'd answer this would be an unfair advantage to the religion of their choice. This works off of the same logic as why teachers aren't allowed to state who they're voting for in elections, because the authority children see in them would make something in their brain click and try to be like them.

 

 

 

How would you pick yuor religion?

 

By what's best for you?

 

By what's best for the Earth?

 

By what is promised in the future?

 

or

 

By what seems moral and logical to you?

 

 

 

Realistically that last option fits best for most of us, because it wouldn't have us constrained to be a single religion for the rest of our lives and base all our beliefs off of it, you can pay respect to a god but still disagree with him/her.

 

 

 

Topic0.2 - Politics

 

 

 

Teachers aren't allowed to tell you who they vote for because it might influence you. This is what I call "The Rolemodel Rule".

 

 

 

"The Rolemodel Rule" is this:

 

If a rolemodel figure in your early life has an opinion, you will be more likely to share the same opinion later in life.

 

 

 

"The Rolemodel Rule" works because of this:

 

- At young ages children are susceptable to authority figures.

 

- Your parents who raise you and are always a rolemodel for your life until your teen years.

 

- Your parents will tell you who to listen to and respect, on yuor first day of school they've probably said "Do what ever the teacher asks, and be nice"

 

 

 

Back to politics, many teens watch shows such as The Colbert Report and The Daily Show, but some will rely on those shows to decide your position on political events. If you catch yourself agreeing with topic on these shows thats okay, as long as once they start talking about a topic you're not aware of, and you simpley decide to go with their opinion instead of settling on your own.

 

 

 

In the world today, someone could manipulate followers this way.

 

Basically...

 

 

 

I'll lower taxes! (yay!)

 

I'll raise school funding! (yay!)

 

etc... (yay!)

 

I'll go to war with terrorists in France! (Yay!, wait, what did he just say? Well, he should know what he's talking about)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll probably finish the rest later :lol:

 

But, discuss away!

 

 

 

 

 

For fun, I interveiw one of my freinds who an "compulsive borrower" (in my eyes).

 

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xIlI0l0IlIx: I want to ask you some questions.

 

*****: ok youÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ll have to do it in a minute

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: I won't tell you why until the end, nor will I

 

respond to your answers.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: so.. YouÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢re back?

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: alright well here we go

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Q#1.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: What religion are you?

 

*****: Christian reform.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: What religion are your parents?

 

*****: (why am I telling you this) my dad grew

 

up with a not religious family, so he went to church with

 

the neighbors. my mom grew up Christian with very

 

hardcore Christian parents.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Since when have you lived your life with this

 

religion?

 

*****: ever since I was born. Well to be exact,

 

4.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: What is your political stance?

 

*****: DEMOCRAT.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Do you watch any liberal TV shows regularly

 

(ex: The Daily show)

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: If yes, since when?

 

*****: I don't watch much TV. But I watch

 

David letterman!

 

*****: : this summer, since I was staying up

 

late being bored

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: What are your parent's political stance and

 

when did you decide on yours?

 

*****: democrats. I decided ...idk

 

when...since I could think straight, IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve always known how I

 

feel about events in life. My view fit that of a liberal's.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Do you view any democratic

 

website/magazine/etc. regularly?

 

*****: yes.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: How many different sources?

 

*****: 3 aprox.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Do they all agree with each other?

 

*****: I don't memorize what they

 

all say.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Well, have you noticed any inconsistencies in

 

their stances?

 

*****: well, they all deal with different topics,

 

so it's hard to say.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: so basically you have a source for "These"

 

topics, a source for "that" topic and a source for "those"

 

topics?

 

*****: I guess you could say that.

 

where is this going?

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: I told you I won't tell you until the end.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: You're vegetarian, are your parents?

 

*****: I am, they are not.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Is there anything that influenced you to be? (a

 

person or group, TV show, magazine...)

 

*****: IÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢ve always thought that eating a dead

 

animal was repulsive. So I finally decided to give it all up

 

about a year ago. I did it mainly for my health. but also

 

for compassion of animals and environmental purposes.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: I wasnÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t talking about that kind of influence.

 

*****: well then no. I did it on my own.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: I meant a group like Peta, or maybe a public

 

speaker.

 

*****: nope.

 

*****: I didn't get involved with them [Peta] until a

 

few months ago.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Now, would you safely say you agree with

 

them on most topics?

 

*****: yes, almost. I still wear leather

 

products though.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: In general what affects your decisions, beliefs

 

and opinions the most?

 

*****: my thoughts. My personality. What

 

gets me through the day. Whatever inspires me.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Follow-up...

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: What has influenced your thoughts, what

 

inspires you, what has shaped your personality?

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: By "What" I mean a person, a group, a

 

magazine, a TV show, a teacher, a parent, a relative, a

 

friend, and so on.

 

*****: this is so stupid.

 

*****: are you being paid to do this?

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Please answer the question.

 

*****: none of those things have made me

 

who I am now. well I spoke too soon. I started watching

 

the Simpsons when I was a baby, that what gave me a

 

good sense of humor.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: I'd disagree.

 

 

 

 

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: there might be another simple question

 

or two

 

*****: jbvlcjhlkaga FINE

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Do you ever feel subconsciously affected by

 

anything (such as something you remember from years ago)

 

*****: I guess so.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: In anyway how possible it came from one of

 

those "What"s I mentioned earlier?

 

*****: nope, not at all.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: Does this not even include religion?

 

*****: yes.

 

xIlI0l0IlIx: alright, so religion affects your personality,

 

what you chose to do and your opinions?

 

*****: not entirely.

 

*****: I think that it help me to be a better

 

person.

 

*****: I think that I just like being who I am. I

 

don't think I get stuff from other people, def. not my

 

friends. I just want to have a purposeful (is that a word?) life.

 

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[Bubsa]

That's it, I've officially lost faith (get it?!) in this board. When a topic on borrowing has to be sub-divided into sections like religion, life decisions, morals and other bollocks...

 

 

 

I can't take it. I might hiatus.

 

 

 

A borrowing thread sounds good, don't get me wrong ville, but come on, you don't have to accommodate for all the eventual outcomes here.

[Nadril]

haha, I have to agree with you bubs. There 'is' such a thing as going overboard. :lol:

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And i clicked expecting a topic on material items being borrowed and not getting returned for years - damn the topic threw me off good :uhh: