dyingdragon Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Has anyone else noticed that the better you can smith the more ripped off you are? With coal prices on their way to being 200 gp each (a far cry from the antique price of 100 each I remember...) it's important to consider your profit of alching verses selling the coal you get, or not buying coal... We all know that the major profit comes from being able to smith rune, but for us not so great smiths, we have to take profits when we can, or settle for just exp. So, using the friendly Tip.it site, I looked up how much experience I got for smelting and smithing addy items. 100 each. I compared that and the 6 pieces of coal possibly worth 200 each with mithrill, and found that not only will I not get any major profit with addy untill much later on, but the experience is worse than mith!!! :wall: What really burned is that I looked and found that the experience per coal is even better with steel than mith, but I cant make any profit with that! I know the reason behind there being less experience per coal with the later metals than with steel is most likely that there is greater profit from these items, but with the coal price being what it is, I fail to see how it's worth it. does anyone agree that there should be a bit more experience given for making mith, adamant, and maybe even rune items? Keep an open mind, but don't let your brains fall out... Acuired items: Barrows; Verec's helm, Dharok helm. Dragon; Nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
killing_tank Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 do you realise you get way more experience only smithing platebodies? i can smith mithril but i make steel plates since it makes like 10 times more experience try that out dude im already 60 smithing Mess with the best, die like the rest Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
O_M_G_Guasto Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 Smithing was extremely profitable back in the day, now its a shadowed over relic of a skill. :cry: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dyingdragon Posted June 25, 2007 Author Share Posted June 25, 2007 this is exactly what I mean, smithing is no longer worth it with the price of coal the way it is. What I was saying is that you get far too much more experience smithing steel than you do mithrill and addy, and since coal is 200 each, it makes it completely unworth the effort, it should give more experience, at least as much per bar as steel gives... It's just so much easier to make money with other skills such as fletching now. To make money off of fletching, all you have to do is click on a tree once and you wait untill it falls down and you go to the next, with mining you have to continuosly change rocks for every ore mined, plus it's far more competetive than wc. Flax and bowstrings are also cheaper than coal, and you only need 1 per bow! you need a minimum of 2 coal for the lowest bar requiring coal! It sucks! I think smithing is a skill that is being neglected, mining as well, we don't even have a dragon pickaxe! Think, the last update in mining was pickaxes of different metal, after woodcutting had had different axes for ages. By the time you can make cannon balls and gold bars for jewelry, theres no use untill rune... THIS SKILL NEEDS IMPROOVING TO BRING IT BACK TO IT'T RS1 GLORY! Keep an open mind, but don't let your brains fall out... Acuired items: Barrows; Verec's helm, Dharok helm. Dragon; Nothing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kelbri Posted June 25, 2007 Share Posted June 25, 2007 First off, let me say, as soon as Jagex brings smithing "back to it's RS1 glory!", there will be countless people, who still love smithing, ranting about how they can't smith now, because everybody is doing it (not that that's really an issue as there can be countless people using the same furnace or anvil at once). Next, let's look at the price of coal. You say that the price is too expensive as it closes in on 200 gp each? Let's say that the xp did get raised for every mith/addy/rune object smithed. The price of coal would go through the roof (as everybody would want coal, and the sellers would jack up the price) and smithing would be even less of a money maker. Not to mention, that the mining guild would be over-run and people would complain about needing more coal rocks. By the way, the minimum coal needed to smith, is actually 1 for steel. Use the blast furnace (members only), and your coal need is cut in half. That would make things WAY more profitable (even if you buy your coal). I am f2p, and wish that I could use the blast furnace. Lastly, if Jagex DID raise the xp per item smithed, how many people, who already have 99 smithing, would flood Jagex with complaints, that they had to do it the "hard way", with less xp, and now everybody will get 99 smithing no prob. Because of this, I say no support on the subject. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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