pipeelbakan Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Short guide, i'm sorry, the one who made a guide about turning a crystal shield on a seed, but i just notice, about the xp, time... you miss... 1)Xp & time 3)End 1) Xp Lowering the crystal bow to 180k means 10k arrows. A crystal bow is maybe more powerfull than MSB plus rune arrows... A crystal shield is one of the best shields on the game. But crystal bow gives hp, crystal shield gives bonuses, so crystal bow does too... Let's calculate! 1k shots= 40 minutes (25 shots per minute Crystal bow with range pots at fire gigants gives up to 100k per hour. Hits with 75 ranged w/o pots + 2/10 c bow = 9 (max is about 15) 9x4=36 *36XP per shot 36x25=900 xp per minute. Maybe with addy arrows. 54k xp per hour 1k shots=36k xp 2.5k shots are 90k xp Plus a 10/10 c bow= 110k xp i guess... 90k x 4 = 360k xp Conclusion: A bow takes 110 minutes to degrade. all bows take 440 minutes you get over 400k xp inthead of saving 400k I would pay 1k for 1k xp since 99 range is over 70m chins way, 40m+ cannon way, And 22m c bow way. Someone sells me 5k red chins 400 each. Save money or get cheap xp. I won't miss this chance. I had a mistake, c bow xp is over 70k an hour. Thanks! Saradomin gwd drops: 6 Ss, 2 hilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benfr Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Instead of acting so childish, perhaps you should discuss whatever problem you have with the other thread creator? He had good reasons to degrade it to a seed, with good ideas on how to do it quickly. No need to ruin his guide with things like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phata_elise Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Short guide, i'm sorry, the one who made a guide about turning a crystal shield on a seed, but i just notice, about the xp, time... you miss... 1)Xp & time 3)End 1) Xp Lowering the crystal bow to 180k means 10k arrows. A crystal bow is maybe more powerfull than MSB plus rune arrows... A crystal shield is one of the best shields on the game. But crystal bow gives hp, crystal shield gives bonuses, so crystal bow does too... Let's calculate! 1k shots= 40 minutes (25 shots per minute Crystal bow with range pots at fire gigants gives up to 100k per hour. Hits with 75 ranged w/o pots + 2/10 c bow = 9 (max is about 15) 9x4=36 *36XP per shot 36x25=900 xp per minute. Maybe with addy arrows. 54k xp per hour 1k shots=36k xp 2.5k shots are 90k xp Plus a 10/10 c bow= 110k xp i guess... 90k x 4 = 360k xp Conclusion: A bow takes 110 minutes to degrade. all bows take 440 minutes you get over 400k xp inthead of saving 400k I would pay 1k for 1k xp since 99 range is over 70m chins way, 40m+ cannon way, And 22m c bow way. Someone sells me 5k red chins 400 each. Save money or get cheap xp. I won't miss this chance. I had a mistake, c bow xp is over 70k an hour. Thanks! You make some incorrect assumptions in your calculations. Let me point them out: 1) 1k shots= 40 minutes (25 shots per minute). You can't maintain this rate of fire constantly. Sometimes there is no monster to attack, sometimes you have lag, sometimes you are not paying attention. 2) Hits with 75 ranged w/o pots + 2/10 c bow = 9 (max is about 15). If your max hit is 15, then how on earth do you get an average damage of 9? If, and I really mean if you hit, the damage is distributed equally between 1 and your max (which is 15). So, suppose you hit 100% of the time, your average damage will be ~8. However, it's more realistic to aasume that you hit 75% of the time with an average damage of 8. This gives you an average damage per shot of 0.75*8 = 6. So instead of an average damage per shot of 9, it's only around 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master_Smither Posted September 12, 2007 Share Posted September 12, 2007 Why did you make this? to contridict what the other guide said? That was childish....... Click for My Blog670th to 99 Smithing July 21st, 07 |743rd to 99 Mining November 29th, 07 | 649th to 99 Runecrafting May 18th, 08 | 29,050th to 99 Defence October 20th, 08 | 20,700th to 99 Magic November 8, 08 | 47,938th to 99 Attack December 19, 08 | 37,829th to 99 Hitpoints December 24, 08 | 68,604th to 99 Strength February 4, 09 | 27,983rd to 99 Range February 9, 09 | 9,725th to 99 Prayer June 8, 09 | 6,620th to 99 Slayer December, 12 09 | 4,075th to 99 Summoning December, 28 09 | 3,551th to 99 Herblore February 24, 10 | 3,192th to 99 Dungeoneering November 11, 10 | 146,600th to 99 Cooking December 29th, 10 | 11,333rd to 99 Construction June 7th, 11 | 16,648th to 99 Farming August 1st, 11 | 19,993th to 99 Crafting August 2nd, 11 | 89,739th to 99 Woodcutting Janurary 1st, 12 | 55,424th to 99 Fishing May 9th, 12| 60,648th to 99 Firemaking May 12th, 12 | 16666th to 99 Agility May 17th, 2012 | 24476th to 99 Hunter June 1st, 2012 | 57,881st to 99 Fletching June 1st, 2012 | All 99s June 1st, 2012 | 3183th to 120 Dungeoneering July 24th, 2012 | 2341st to 2496 Total level July 24th, 2012 | Completionist Cape July 24th, 2012 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pipeelbakan Posted September 13, 2007 Author Share Posted September 13, 2007 No, since you miss over 400k xp, since i did on my, in hes guide it said, that many people would say that it's just 400k, i don't really know if shield takes more than bow to degrade but i can make over 400k in that time! Saradomin gwd drops: 6 Ss, 2 hilts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wachtwoord Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 You could have discussed on the other guides topic and not make your own thread. (It isn't even a guide.) I agree what has been said; it's childish. When everything's been said and done, more has been said than done.All skills 80+ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assassin_696 Posted September 13, 2007 Share Posted September 13, 2007 There's no need to make a whole new thread to simply make a potentially invalid refutation against a guide. Locked. "Da mihi castitatem et continentam, sed noli modo" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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