Bad911 Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Well, i finally figured out a way to FOCUS on my task, and i realized that it was because i couldn't see direct results of my efforts that i quit almost before i began. So im going for a really high level in magic. To get magic levels, i figured i'd alch, but then i didn't want to buy the runes, so i decided to make them. It's easy enough, but...i don't like the abyss, idk why, but i just don't like running around getting hit. So now...I've decided to get 57 summoning, from 45......For the spirit graayhk. What i'm asking, is could someone take my actual current experience points in summoning, and find the CHEAPEST/XP way to get to 57. I'm not exactly cheap, i just don't think i want to be doing green charms the entire way there... Since crimsom seems to be the best xp/shard out there. Also, could someone give an educated guess around how much i'll spend, i have 8mil, so i can afford it. Another question is, should i mine my own pure ess for natures, or buy them? (after i get the summoning of course) P.S. I've read countless guides (mainly 2, and i quickly scanned a boring one) and i know what to make, which are cheapest, i just can't decide how to use my charms. EDIT: hold on, i forgot i don't have a signature of my stats up.. Can someone post that they see my sig? #-o down there VVVVVV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corbud Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 I can't help you, but I can see your siggy..... 1673rd person to 99 smithing! Monday, June 30th, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Do whatever to get to 46, then do pyrelords to 49 (about 118 pyrelords, 13,098 shards from BASE xp of 46), then bloated leeches to 52 (about 149 to 52, 17,433 shards from BASE xp of 49), then terrorbirds to 57 (about 1,164 to 57, 13,968 shards from BASE xp of 52). If you didn't want to do terrorbirds (like me, saving them for when you actually can use them instead of just training), do bloated leeches to 57 (about 519 from 49-57, 60,723 shards from BASE xp of 49). That'd be a total of 44,499 shards. If you buy from Pikupstixx for 25 ea, that's 1,112,475gp. If you buy from players for say, 23 ea, for 44,499 shards, it's 1,023,477gp. Now, you can either trade that ogre for 70% of your shards, or hi-alching them. Pyrelord hi-alch value: 1919 (226,442 gp for 118 pyrelords) Bloated Leech hi-alch value: 2009 (299,341gp) Terrorbird hi-alch value: 434 (505,176gp) Hi-alching the pouches, you can get 1,030,959gp. Don't take my word for it on the most efficient, but it's what I'd do. I'd also mine the pure essence if you hi-alch pouches, buy it for afterwards. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad911 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Do whatever to get to 46, then do pyrelords to 49 (about 118 pyrelords, 13,098 shards from BASE xp of 46), then bloated leeches to 52 (about 149 to 52, 17,433 shards from BASE xp of 49), then terrorbirds to 57 (about 1,164 to 57, 13,968 shards from BASE xp of 52). If you didn't want to do terrorbirds (like me, saving them for when you actually can use them instead of just training), do bloated leeches to 57 (about 519 from 49-57, 60,723 shards from BASE xp of 49). That'd be a total of 44,499 shards if you use terrorbirds, 73,821 shards if you don't. If you buy from Pikupstixx for 25 ea, that's 1,112,475 with terrorbirds, and 1,854,525 without terrorbirds. If you buy from players for say, 23 ea, for 44,499 shards, it's 1,023,477, and for 73,821 it's 1,697,883. Now, you can either trade that ogre for 70% of your shards, or hi-alching them. Pyrelord hi-alch value: 1919 (226,442 gp for 118 pyrelords) Bloated Leech hi-alch value: 2009 (299,341 OR 1,042,671) Terrorbird hi-alch value: 434 (505,176) Hi-alching the pouches, you can get 1,030,959 back OR 1,269,113 back. Don't take my word for it on the most efficient, but it's what I'd do. I'd also mine the pure essence if you hi-alch pouches, buy it for afterwards. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Omg, can someone give this guy a medal.... :lol: Tysovm. Only part i don't understand is...You say 299,341 OR 1,042,671....Um whats the 299k, shards? EDIT: You seem to know very well what your doing, could you give your opinion whether i should alch or trade the pouches in for shards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Do whatever to get to 46, then do pyrelords to 49 (about 118 pyrelords, 13,098 shards from BASE xp of 46), then bloated leeches to 52 (about 149 to 52, 17,433 shards from BASE xp of 49), then terrorbirds to 57 (about 1,164 to 57, 13,968 shards from BASE xp of 52). If you didn't want to do terrorbirds (like me, saving them for when you actually can use them instead of just training), do bloated leeches to 57 (about 519 from 49-57, 60,723 shards from BASE xp of 49). That'd be a total of 44,499 shards if you use terrorbirds, 73,821 shards if you don't. If you buy from Pikupstixx for 25 ea, that's 1,112,475 with terrorbirds, and 1,854,525 without terrorbirds. If you buy from players for say, 23 ea, for 44,499 shards, it's 1,023,477, and for 73,821 it's 1,697,883. Now, you can either trade that ogre for 70% of your shards, or hi-alching them. Pyrelord hi-alch value: 1919 (226,442 gp for 118 pyrelords) Bloated Leech hi-alch value: 2009 (299,341 OR 1,042,671) Terrorbird hi-alch value: 434 (505,176) Hi-alching the pouches, you can get 1,030,959 back OR 1,269,113 back. Don't take my word for it on the most efficient, but it's what I'd do. I'd also mine the pure essence if you hi-alch pouches, buy it for afterwards. :thumbup: :thumbup: :thumbup: Omg, can someone give this guy a medal.... :lol: Tysovm. Only part i don't understand is...You say 299,341 OR 1,042,671....Um whats the 299k, shards? EDIT: You seem to know very well what your doing, could you give your opinion whether i should alch or trade the pouches in for shards? 299k shards is if you go with terrorbirds, 1.04m shards is if you don't use terrorbirds. I'd hi-alch, because if the calculations I do are right, which I'm not sure if they are: For the pyrelords, it's 2,775gp per pouch if you buy 25 ea, 2,553gp if you buy 23 ea. Since you hi-alch for 1,919gp, that's 856gp loss or 643gp loss per pouch. 70% of 111 shards is 77.7 shards. 77.7 * 25 = 1,942gp; 77.7 * 23 = 1,787gp. 2775gp - 1,942gp = 833gp; 2553gp - 1,787gp = 766gp. So if you buy for 23 ea, it's best to hi-alch pyrelord pouches. For the bloated leeches, it's 2,925gp per pouch from pikkupstix, 2,691gp from players at 23 ea. Hi-alch value is 2009gp, that's a 916gp loss, or 682gp loss per pouch. 70% of 117 shards is 81.9 shards. 81.9 * 25 = 2,047gp; 81.9 * 23 = 1,883gp. 2925gp - 2047gp = 878gp; 2691gp - 1,883gp = 808gp. Again, if you buy from players for 23 ea, it's best to hi-alch the bloated leech pouches. For Spirit Terrorbird, it's 300gp per pouch from pikkupstix, and 276gp per pouch from players. Hi-alch value is 434...right there you can tell that's it's best to hi-alch these pouches since that's a lot more than 70% of the shards, although, these might sell well in GE, I don't really know. DISCLAIMER: These calculations may not be 100% correct...or correct at all, but if I give you the wrong calculations, that means I have the wrong calculations as well. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bad911 Posted June 23, 2008 Author Share Posted June 23, 2008 Oh, Em, Ge, you don't have to do it alllll :oops: Lol, i have already decided to go with spirit terrorbrids (sorry, but i think golds are just way too easy to get). Its fine, its fine, you've helped so much already :thumbsup: Oh yea, and by 299k shards, do you mean 299k worth of shards? or 299k shards? Getting confused, could you edit your post and put gp by the ones that need gp? lol. sorry about all this inconvience EDIT: I FIGURED IT OUT! wow...thx so much, i figured out what you were saying, lol. You meant as in Gp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vulxai Posted June 23, 2008 Share Posted June 23, 2008 Oh, Em, Ge, you don't have to do it alllll :oops: Lol, i have already decided to go with spirit terrorbrids (sorry, but i think golds are just way too easy to get). Its fine, its fine, you've helped so much already :thumbsup: Oh yea, and by 299k shards, do you mean 299k worth of shards? or 299k shards? Getting confused, could you edit your post and put gp by the ones that need gp? lol. sorry about all this inconvience EDIT: I FIGURED IT OUT! wow...thx so much, i figured out what you were saying, lol. You meant as in Gp. Lol it's no problem at all, it's actually helping me out as well, since I'm workin for 70. And I had a task of fire giants, and wow, my charm count for golds soared, so I'll be using terrorbirds as well lol. I'm still figuring out if hi-alching or 70% is better. EDIT: I think I got it :?, it's on the 5th post. ~ Proud Father ~ Proud (Currently Deployed) Army National Guardsmen ~ Proud Lakota ~ Retired Tip.It Crew ~ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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