Australia to adopt China-like firewall.

[Collective]

Ah there could be a system in place, such as the local police take in your hard drive(when you set off alarms at the filter), do a quick investigation etc..

 

Of course there could be, but there isn't. As it stands encryption will outwit this firewall without legal consequences for the user. Any plans to change this would cause political uproar. I'm not denying it could happen in the future, but for now it can be discounted entirely.

 

 

 

Also, you don't need Linux to encrypt your system partition - see TrueCrypt.

 

 

 

Edit: Fixed quote

[Furah]

Ah there could be a system in place, such as the local police take in your hard drive(when you set off alarms at the filter), do a quick investigation etc..

 

Of course there could be, but there isn't. As it stands encryption will outwit this firewall without legal consequences for the user. Any plans to change this would cause political uproar. I'm not denying it could happen in the future, but for now it can be discounted entirely.

 

 

 

Also, you don't need Linux to encrypt your system partition - see TrueCrypt.

 

 

 

yes, but even with that there Windows is still easier to hack then Linux...

[Randox]

Because of the size of this filter, it would need to be mostly blacklists, and unless the ISPs have computers with specially designed CPU's for blacklisting/censoring , there is no way to do this without slowdowns.

 

 

 

A point brought up in the second article about what happens after a censor is implace. Its is true, once the censor exists, it becomes very easy to add to it. Maybe nothing big, bit a little here a little there and suddenly alot more is gone because everything adds up.

 

 

 

I would guess that peer-to-peer sharing (noteably torrents) would go, though I don't see how you could block already existing torrents. The best you could easily manage there is banning any site that downloads a torrent client or hosts a torrent file/tracker). If this were done to Canada, my country, and they blocked p2p, the party that alloed it wouldn't have a hope of being elected for the next century. Last I checked, Canada was essentialy the largest contributer of software piracy (per capita) in the world, with total piracy being around the same as the entire United states (meaning per capita, Canadians pirate about 10 times as much as americans).

 

 

 

4% collateral damage is massive. I would not accept anything less than maybe 0.1%, maybe less. For encrypting a partion on your Hard Drive, you dont always need a program. My laptop has an encrypted HD so that is someone steals the hard drive, it will be absolute giberish because there is a hardware encryptor/decryptor in the system. Of course if the police sieze the system, they just leave the HD in the laptop or dycrypt it (surely they can, or can send it to an agency that can do it).

 

 

 

If they want to know what you have been doing, its easier to just ask the ISP and only search a computer when they know something is there. Lastly, Windows Vista is the most information retentive program I have ever seen. I am sure it can be byspased, but then Linux can be too.

[Furah]

I wonder if it would be possible to make an OS like thing, I'll refer to it as OperEm, where it boots as OperEm and you must log in, then it goes to a screen where you choose which OS you continue in, eg Xp, Vista, OS X, Kubuntu. This way, it would make it near impossible to hack a computer with OperEm, as nobody would not know how to. :-k

[Collective]

I wonder if it would be possible to make an OS like thing, I'll refer to it as OperEm, where it boots as OperEm and you must log in, then it goes to a screen where you choose which OS you continue in, eg Xp, Vista, OS X, Kubuntu. This way, it would make it near impossible to hack a computer with OperEm, as nobody would not know how to. :-k

 

That's more or less what TrueCrypt allows you to do. It can install a boot loader that asks you for a password, and, depending on which password you enter, load a different operating system.

 

 

 

http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=hidden ... ing-system

[Furah]

I wonder if it would be possible to make an OS like thing, I'll refer to it as OperEm, where it boots as OperEm and you must log in, then it goes to a screen where you choose which OS you continue in, eg Xp, Vista, OS X, Kubuntu. This way, it would make it near impossible to hack a computer with OperEm, as nobody would not know how to. :-k

 

That's more or less what TrueCrypt allows you to do. It can install a boot loader that asks you for a password, and, depending on which password you enter, load a different operating system.

 

 

 

http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=hidden ... ing-system

 

 

 

Yes, but is it 100% proven to be unhackable? if so I may dl tomorrow...

[Collective]

Yes, but is it 100% proven to be unhackable? if so I may dl tomorrow...

 

No, that would be completely unrealistic. It is, however, about as good as it gets.

[BlueLancer]

I wonder if it would be possible to make an OS like thing, I'll refer to it as OperEm, where it boots as OperEm and you must log in, then it goes to a screen where you choose which OS you continue in, eg Xp, Vista, OS X, Kubuntu. This way, it would make it near impossible to hack a computer with OperEm, as nobody would not know how to. :-k

 

That's more or less what TrueCrypt allows you to do. It can install a boot loader that asks you for a password, and, depending on which password you enter, load a different operating system.

 

 

 

http://www.truecrypt.org/docs/?s=hidden ... ing-system

 

 

 

Yes, but is it 100% proven to be unhackable? if so I may dl tomorrow...

 

 

 

Nothing made by humans is unhackable or unbreakable, but TC has pretty good protection for an average user. Nobody has the motivation to hack into your box...

 

 

 

TC uses 3-layered, 256 [AES] bit encryption for your files. It's a very strong standard even some government agencies use, not unbreakable but very safe

[DaN]

Wait, does illegal material include copyright infringing sites? Hope not

 

 

 

Illegal means anything the government or their sponsor doesn't want you to see.

 

 

 

 

 

Get the word out!

 

 

 

Get people to flood the ministers office.

 

http://www.minister.dbcde.gov.au/contact

 

 

 

This is supposed to be a free country. As for Child Porn I would rather people have free access to it, you can't bust someone for possession if they don't have it on their hard drive. It's not like the web is the only place to obtain such content, how many legitimate sites will the filter block?

 

 

 

In a real democracy Free-Speech is protected by the Government, from the Government and Everyone else.

[Igor]

I have to say i'm suprised!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sorry, but did anyone else have a picture of the great wall of china surrounding Australia pop into their head?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

(just had to say it :oops: )

[AlexDT]

There's an online petition with about 10,000 signatures so far. I'll try to dig up the link.

 

 

 

On a side-note, do online petitions ever actually have any effect, or political weight?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://petitions.takingitglobal.org/oznetcensorship

 

 

 

(Jeez, they got about 1,000 signatures in less than 24 hours)

[lv3god]

You gotta be [cabbage]ting me....this is the biggest [cabbage] ever... K Rudd was cool until this.