Bonus Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I'm looking for a good way to get from 95 to 99 strength. I've been doing armoured zombies, but it got boring. >.< I can't really afford to do bandits. >.< And PC would be slow and get me like no HP exp, plus I can't get into a PC clan. xD Changed title from "Hdjkjqiuj;,mdsa." to "How to Get 99 Strength?" You're welcome to change the title again if you wish, but it must relate to your thread in some way. It cannot be gibberish or things like "Important! Read here!!!" ~tripsis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 SLAYAYAYAYAYAYAH Bandits suck anyway, dont even try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asianboy7o7 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 you want a fun way to get fast str exp i believe that does not exist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Not fun, but zombies were so lonely. -.- And Slayer would take forever. :P I'm looking to power train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Power training is useless, grats on a cape with nothing else from it :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 Power training is useless, grats on a cape with nothing else from it :thumbup: Thanks for spamming my thread. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Power training is useless, grats on a cape with nothing else from it :thumbup: And what great things, pray tell, does training slayer on slightly different colored NPC models for much less XP and far less cash get you, besides large piles of cash in a shorter amount of time? Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzz_knight Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 dh Apes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonus Posted January 15, 2009 Author Share Posted January 15, 2009 dh Apes? I was thinking that, but not enough cash for DH. :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Power training is useless, grats on a cape with nothing else from it :thumbup: And what great things, pray tell, does training slayer on slightly different colored NPC models for much less XP and far less cash get you, besides large piles of cash in a shorter amount of time? Unefficiency club. Play the game how its meant to be played. Making money from skills. And btw I was talking about bandits. And slayer > armoured zombies anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Power training is useless, grats on a cape with nothing else from it :thumbup: And what great things, pray tell, does training slayer on slightly different colored NPC models for much less XP and far less cash get you, besides large piles of cash in a shorter amount of time? Unefficiency club. Play the game how its meant to be played. Making money from skills. And btw I was talking about bandits. And slayer > armoured zombies anyway. You still haven't answered. So earning twice the money and far more XP from killing Armored Zombies instead of killing the slayer monsters isn't 'playing the game how its meant to be played'? Bandits? That's camping\power training, my friend. The only difference is that bandits are 60k XP\0 profit\0 charms instead of 103k XP\190k profit\22 crimson worth per hour. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I think I answered 2 times. 1 being "Unefficiency club" 2 being "Play the game how it is meant to be played" Yeah fine armoured zombies are fine, i'll admit it now, but bandits are pointless. Experiments are pointless. Who cares how much xp you get p/hour? Everyone HAS to according to you kinds of people. If they dont, they're playing the game wrong. But imo, your way is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 I think I answered 2 times. 1 being "Unefficiency club" 2 being "Play the game how it is meant to be played" Yeah fine armoured zombies are fine, i'll admit it now, but bandits are pointless. Experiments are pointless. Who cares how much xp you get p/hour? Everyone HAS to according to you kinds of people. If they dont, they're playing the game wrong. But imo, your way is wrong. I love training various ways. But that's not what the OP asked. I'm looking for a good way to get from 95 to 99 strength. He didn't ask for 'what you think is the most enjoyable way to get 99 strength irregardless of XP'. What he asked for is methods that will get you good XP. I'm not telling him to go anywhere, simply stating that he'll spend twice as long at other places like Bandits. Now, on to your other points #1, 'unefficency club'. Does that mean intentionally doing things in order to obtain less XP for no logical reason, like fighting with a rubber chicken instead of a whip? That's what your arguing #2, 'playing the game it's meant to be played'. You still haven't answered. So you don't train at armored zombies because you think Jagex intended them for scenery instead of training? Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 LOLOLOL. Playing the game with a rubber chicken? Yeah yeah thats really unefficient. Someone needs to have some damn common sense. And I think Jagex intended everything to be there for fighting, but some things not for extreme training like people say/do. And obviously AZ's were put there for that reason; extreme training. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 LOLOLOL. Playing the game with a rubber chicken? Yeah yeah thats really unefficient. Someone needs to have some damn common sense. And I think Jagex intended everything to be there for fighting, but some things not for extreme training like people say/do. And obviously AZ's were put there for that reason; extreme training. What, pray tell, is extreme training? Training at a couple of different monsters for 1,000 hours (to make a point) for a 99 Training at a monster for 600 hours for a 99. Which of these is more of a 'no life'? Which of these is longer and harder? Which of these is more 'extreme'? Fighting at a spot inferior in every way just because it's 'inefficient' is precisely the same as fighting with a rubber chicken instead of a whip. Both are using inferior training methods just for the purpose of proclaiming how much one enjoys being 'inefficient'. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 You're really hypocritical if you havent noticed. 1. Extreme training Well you do it all the time and you dont know? 2. The no life one is the 600 hour option (even though the hours are not correct, far from it. Stop acting smart whilst not noticing that slayer can be faster, or slower. Yeah I hate how people always say slayer is great too.) Reason being, its one place. Usually when someone has a goal they stay at this one place for a very very long time. Dont get me wrong, people do this with slayer too, but they move around and do something different. 3. I laugh at how you compare training something that gets you say, 80k xp and 150k gp in an hour to something that gives you 150k xp and 0gp in an hour to using a whip and a chicken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 You're really hypocritical if you havent noticed. 1. Extreme training Well you do it all the time and you dont know? 2. The no life one is the 600 hour option (even though the hours are not correct, far from it. Stop acting smart whilst not noticing that slayer can be faster, or slower. Yeah I hate how people always say slayer is great too.) Reason being, its one place. Usually when someone has a goal they stay at this one place for a very very long time. Dont get me wrong, people do this with slayer too, but they move around and do something different. 3. I laugh at how you compare training something that gets you say, 80k xp and 150k gp in an hour to something that gives you 150k xp and 0gp in an hour to using a whip and a chicken. Point by point. 1. Extreme training Well you do it all the time and you dont know? Extreme training, to me, is training a specific skill for dozens of hours at a time. Armored zombies are something I do for an hour or two every now and then, as it is very close to a bank and quick to get into\get out of. Slayer requires a minimum of 150 or so kills for most tasks, meaning your not leaving until then. Slayer also requires much more overall hours, making for significantly more time spent training. 2. The no life one is the 600 hour option (even though the hours are not correct, far from it. Stop acting smart whilst not noticing that slayer can be faster, or slower. Yeah I hate how people always say slayer is great too.) Reason being, its one place. Usually when someone has a goal they stay at this one place for a very very long time. Dont get me wrong, people do this with slayer too, but they move around and do something different. Your theory: 600 hours at 1 spot = less of a life then 1,000 hours at a couple of spots The only problem with it is that many people, including me, only train for short period of time at Zombies - less time then I feel obligated and end up training slayer just to finish a task, then just to see what the next one is, then just to get the points for it, and so forth and so on. Slayer is 65k melee XP\120k profit, varying somewhat, but never exceeding 100k XP\hour. Armored zombies is an almost exact 103k XP\hour, with profit swinging somewhat but averaging 190k\hour. It's very clear cut. 3. I laugh at how you compare training something that gets you say, 80k xp and 150k gp in an hour to something that gives you 150k xp and 0gp in an hour to using a whip and a chicken. Training method A: killing green colored monsters for 103k XP\190k profit, but having to endure the knowledge of being 'efficient'. Training method B: killing white colored monsters for 60k XP\0 profit, secure and happy in the knowledge that you are not training efficiently. In comparison to whip vs. chicken: Training method A: Using a dark colored weapon for 103k XP\190k profit, but having to endure the knowledge of being 'efficient'. Training method B: Using a thicker, light colored weapon for 30k XP\55k profit, secure and happy in the knowledge that you are not training efficiently. A nice, fairly well fitting analogy; the chicken is getting less XP but more cash then bandits, albeit slightly exaggerated; it was, however, simply a metaphor to get my point across. It might have been better served by a rune scimitar instead of a chicken, which fits it even better. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 You cant put a tag of money or xp on slayer, stop saying you can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 You cant put a tag of money or xp on slayer, stop saying you can. You most certainly can. Just as you can figure out the XP rates for Armored Zombies, you can average the XP rates for tasks. If all the tasks get between 40-80k XP, your not going to suddenly get 150k XP. And if, say, 5 tasks average: 40k XP, 0 profit 50k XP, 10k profit 60k XP, 20k profit 70k XP, 30k profit 80k XP, 40k profit , And you do each of those tasks 50 times, guess what your going to end up with? 60k XP and 20k profit. Not 90k XP and 50k profit, not 30k XP and -10k profit. It's very simple and predictable. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Unless you know exactly the lineup of tasks a person gets you can NOT Give them rough xp or gp per hour, jesus christ. work that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 Unless you know exactly the lineup of tasks a person gets you can NOT Give them rough xp or gp per hour, jesus christ. work that out. Exactly the lineup of tasks? Here's a hint, if the tasks are evenly distributed and a million people get 100 tasks each, guess what? Each task is going to get the same number of people, accurate to +\- .000005% (using statistical variance with 5% chance of receiving one of 20 tasks, multiplied out over 100,000,000 tasks.) It's quite simple, it's exactly the same as calculating XP for an individual monster. Each swing of the whip won't get you the same XP, but if you take 1 million whip swings, you get a precise average that will be extremely close to the XP you will get over the next 1 million whip swings with variables standardized. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 In one hour someone could have turoths and a few fire giants. Kurasks and a few iron drags Explain logically how you do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
compfreak847 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 In one hour someone could have turoths and a few fire giants. Kurasks and a few iron drags Explain logically how you do. Did I give slayer rates for 1 hour? Nope. Just like I didn't give my Zombie rates for 1 whip hit. What I did give them for is hundreds of whip hits and hundreds of hours of slayer - where probability and statistics will balance out, and allow us to predict the most likely outcome. In this case, the sample range is large enough that the most likely outcome can be predicted very precisely. Drops: 1x Draconic Visage, 56x Abyssal Whip, 5x Demon Head, D Drops: 37, Barrows Drops: 43, DK Drops: 29GWD drops: 14,000x Bars, 1x Armadyl Hilt, 2x Armadyl Skirt, 4x Sara Sword, 1x Saradomin Hilt, 8x Bandos Hilt, 8x Bandos Platebody, 9x Bandos Tassets, 4x Bandos Boots, 43x Godsword Shard, 82x Dragon BootsDry streak records: Saradomin 412 kills Bandos 988 kills Spirit Mages 633 kills - Slayer Sucks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orly_Owl Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 No. I dont have to explain this, because I cant, and there is no need to explain it. It Is Too Random. If you dont understand this and continue saying that you can, gtfo plz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omg12333 Posted January 15, 2009 Share Posted January 15, 2009 If armored zombies give you 103k xp/hr and 190k cash/hr, I say stick with it. It may be boring, but I speculate it will not be as boring as bandits/Monkey Guards, etc. Support the best way to stop keyloggers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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