Clarification of rules.

[pureprayer]

How many lines of text do

quotes

take up? 2?

[compfreak847]

How many lines of text do

 

 

 

quotes

 

 

 

take up? 2?

 

3, from the extra spacing. That's the next issue I'll move onto, but I've got a list of a few dozen people with oversized signatures I can start in before I move onto quotes. I think it's a total of 95 people with oversized signatures, I'm ready and waiting to report :thumbsup:

[dsavi]

So anyway, should I return to my old signature, how do I go about sending it to the mods who won't remove it when it is reported? Is there any way I can keep it from going to you or tripsis so it doesn't get removed? And if that's not possible, how do I go about sending evil_mumm_ra's report directly to you so it can be removed, and not to one of the moderators who doesn't want to remove it?

 

If you really must know, all reports are handled in the same. place (Although some reports are not visible if the moderator in question does not have moderator permissions in the forum in which the post was reported)

 

I don't think that's going to help you much though.

[compfreak847]

 

If you really must know, all reports are handled in the same. place (Although some reports are not visible if the moderator in question does not have moderator permissions in the forum in which the post was reported)

 

I don't think that's going to help you much though.

 

I don't think so. Whenever I get responses to my reports, it tell me to respond to a certain moderator; jobs seem to be divided up among moderators (or, more likely, moderators pick reports to handle depending on how much time they have).

 

 

 

I just want to make sure that my reports get sent to a moderator who allows larger signatures. A list of moderators and the different sizes of signatures they will ban for would be helpful; I don't want it to get sent to someone who only allows 4 lines instead of 5 again.

[dsavi]

 

If you really must know, all reports are handled in the same. place (Although some reports are not visible if the moderator in question does not have moderator permissions in the forum in which the post was reported)

 

I don't think that's going to help you much though.

 

I don't think so. Whenever I get responses to my reports, it tell me to respond to a certain moderator; jobs seem to be divided up among moderators (or, more likely, moderators pick reports to handle depending on how much time they have).

 

This should give you some insight into how reports on phpBB3 work after you have reported something:

 

[hide=Viewing open reports][/hide]

 

[hide=Viewing a report][/hide]

 

Different moderators handle different reports, IE after they are done looking at the report they mark it as "Done". The moderator who marked it gets their name on the email to you saying that it has been handled.

[pryomancer]

I just want to make sure that my reports get sent to a moderator who allows larger signatures. A list of moderators and the different sizes of signatures they will ban for would be helpful; I don't want it to get sent to someone who only allows 4 lines instead of 5 again.

 

Whoever deals with the report deals with it, that's none of your business to coerce.

[tripsis]

I just timed it. The time to hit printscreen, press the windows key, type "p", hit enter, press "ctrl+v" and select a box around the image (which tells you the size): Just under 7 seconds. In the time your spending arguing about this, you could have checked a lot of image sizes.

 

 

 

So anyway, should I return to my old signature, how do I go about sending it to the mods who won't remove it when it is reported? Is there any way I can keep it from going to you or tripsis so it doesn't get removed? And if that's not possible, how do I go about sending evil_mumm_ra's report directly to you so it can be removed, and not to one of the moderators who doesn't want to remove it?

 

Did you read my post at all? I agreed with you that his signature should be removed since yours was too.

 

 

 

 

If you really must know, all reports are handled in the same. place (Although some reports are not visible if the moderator in question does not have moderator permissions in the forum in which the post was reported)

 

I don't think that's going to help you much though.

 

I don't think so. Whenever I get responses to my reports, it tell me to respond to a certain moderator; jobs seem to be divided up among moderators (or, more likely, moderators pick reports to handle depending on how much time they have).

 

 

 

I just want to make sure that my reports get sent to a moderator who allows larger signatures. A list of moderators and the different sizes of signatures they will ban for would be helpful; I don't want it to get sent to someone who only allows 4 lines instead of 5 again.

 

Jobs are not divided up between moderators. The only "division" is if a moderator does not have moderator powers in a certain forum. dsavi_x4 clearly explained the report process sand he is correct. When you report a post, every single report goes to the same place. Global moderators can view every single report that comes in (except on private forums) and local moderators, etc. can only view reports on forums that they have moderator powers in. You do not get to pick which moderator handles your reports. And as I said before, there is no official limit on text within signatures. I'd say that most super moderators/admins don't even have a personal limit. They just eyeball each signature (I actually do tend to take screenshots to see how large they are when I am the one reporting oversized signatures to the super mods/admins. I just find it easier) and make a judgement.

 

 

 

I already told you that the fact that your signature was removed and EMR's wasn't was probably an honest mistake. Pryomancer seemed to agree with me that the size of the text threw us off. We didn't say that "oh because he used smaller font, his is okay." But it APPEARED to look smaller because of the font size he used. We do not have anything against you, and EMR does not get special exceptions to the rules because he is a TET Leader. We do our best to be fair and consistent.

[compfreak847]

Ok, that's nice to know. Now what I want to know is why his signature is still there: http://forum.tip.it/memberlist.php?mode=viewprofile&u=190362. I'll move on to the next person once that's removed, but I don't understand why your talking about a mistake without correcting it.

[pryomancer]

Personally I don't have a problem with it, maybe I've now decided that 6 lines is fine? Perhaps all the mods have? Let us worry about signatures, the report function is there to help the mods, not order us around.

[compfreak847]

I don't worry about signatures, but I DO worry about it when mine's getting banned within the rules. How am I supposed to know whats OK when different mods have different guidelines, and change what they define as "OK" on a weekly basis? If I go back to my old signature, am I going to get banned next week when you change your mind and decide that you don't like 6 lines? Perhaps there should be a global announcement as to the size of the signature allowable on week to week. How am I supposed to know what signatures to report? A schedule for the next few months would be nice so I could adjust my signature accordingly -.-

[tripsis]

I think this argument has gotten out of control so I'm going to pull the Tip.it Forum Rules card:

 

 

 

If you disagree with an action taken by a Moderator, DO NOT confront Tip.It Moderators or Staff Members anywhere on the forums, NOR anywhere else (3rd party messenger programs, chats, etc). Please attempt to resolve the issue through PM's (private messages) in a professional matter. If you are not satisfied with the resolution, please send your complaint to the Tip.It Administrator. Moderators will give everyone the respect they deserve, it's only fair they get the same in return.

 

I would highly recommend that you PM a Forum Administrator to resolve this issue. They will decide if you can return to your old signature or if EMR's signature should be removed. Because we have no official specific policy regarding text in signatures, this decision is too complicated for a moderator to make, in my opinion. I think it's gotten to the point where it would be best and cleanest if an admin stepped in and made the call. This will make everyones' lives easier.

 

 

 

Please contact an administrator via PM to resolve this matter so the arguments here can end.

[compfreak847]

An admin doesn't have the background of this, though. It's not just this issue - I have literally dozens of signatures that are oversize according to Pyro's specifications. I'm not trying to be confrontational, I just need to know what the rules are, and I am (justly, I feel) irritated when instead I am given the runaround about how 'oversize' changes from day to day.

[tripsis]

An admin doesn't have the background of this, though. It's not just this issue - I have literally dozens of signatures that are oversize according to Pyro's specifications. I'm not trying to be confrontational, I just need to know what the rules are.

 

That's what I've been trying to tell you: we don't have any official rules regarding the specific limit of text in signatures. And that's what the problem is. And it won't be hard for an admin to be filled in. I could probably explain the problem to them in two sentences.

[Rainy_Day]

An admin doesn't have the background of this, though. It's not just this issue - I have literally dozens of signatures that are oversize according to Pyro's specifications. I'm not trying to be confrontational, I just need to know what the rules are, and I am (justly, I feel) irritated when instead I am given the runaround about how 'oversize' changes from day to day.

 

Most of yours posts here have been confrontating Pryomancer regarding his decision. Re-read Tripsis' post and follow her intructions to help resolve your issue.

[compfreak847]

 

That's what I've been trying to tell you: we don't have any official rules regarding the specific limit of text in signatures. And that's what the problem is. And it won't be hard for an admin to be filled in. I could probably explain the problem to them in two sentences.

 

Then please do so. My (biased) explanation would center on Pyro's refusing to commit to a firm standard in the PMs, then ignoring the problem in this thread until I brought it up many times, then refusing to acknowledge that it was oversize until I was forced to screengrab it to prove it, then his declarations about the moderating team changing the size requirements with no announcements whatsoever, the refusal to either restore my old signature or remove EMRs, and the complete lack of information on what his guidelines are.

 

 

 

Basically, I don't want to make this personal, and I would rather just settle it with pyro then have to escalated it to an admin. I guess we need solid guidelines, but I feel that until then Pyro was unjustified to remove my signature while leaving dozens of others that I pointed out with larger signatures unpunished - it dates back to the thread I argued with Pyro on before this all started.

 

 

 

All we really need is to contact an admin and get hard numbers on the pixel\text size limit so I can begin reporting the other users with oversize signatures or have my old one restored.

 

 

 

 

Most of yours posts here have been confrontating Pryomancer regarding his decision. Re-read Tripsis' post and follow her intructions to help resolve your issue.

 

All I'm saying is that I want specific numbers for signature limits. Pyro has been constantly changing what he considers to be oversize, and I believe it was in an unfair manner - I posted a list of several other users with larger signatures then mine, and no action was ever taken against them. I wanted to settle it with him without making this into the big issue it has become, but now I guess we need an admin to send out an announcement with the hard numbers so I can get down to reporting and\or get my old signature back.

[tripsis]

As stated in the Tip.it Forum Rules, if you disagree with action taken by a moderator (or lack of action), you should PM a administrator. Publicly complaining about a certain moderator's actions is not permitted and this should have been brought to an administrator's attention immediately. This is not the way to go about solving your problems. As I have stated many times, we have no official limit regarding text in signatures. Not even administrators have an official limit. We discussed creating one, but it was decide that it is too hard to specify.

 

 

 

If you want a final decision regarding whether or not you are permitted to replace your signature, or if EMR's signature should be removed, please PM an administrator. Continuing to bash (even if subtly) a moderator for his or her actions in public will likely result in action taken against your forum account.