kickler123 Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Hi guys. Ive really relied on you guys and just wanna say thanks for all the help.Now, to return on topic: Im not the greatest moneymaker....(400k per hour)Im using the skill calcs and i see that i need around 237,000 fire strikes to get 99 magic.If i did this id spend around 4.4m on runes (mind and fire while using an air staff)So, i figured out it would take me around 13 hours to get the money needed for this. Or: Since im not good at making money i could just get a whip and train with that. I dont want to get both cause im slow at making money and just dont have the time? What do you guys think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Casting that many fire strikes would take hundreds of hours. You should use another method if you want to train magic. May I ask how you are making money right now? How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconic Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Absolutely do NOT train magic like that. The time you save doing faster methods of training can save a LOT of money, even if you can only manage 100k an hour. There's even magic training methods that can make money. You could try using Slayer Dart at Barrows, it's faster than Fire Striking (I've heard estimates that Fire Strike is less than 7k xp an hour, that's horrid by any measurment on any skill) and makes a lot of money, even if you don't get a Barrow's piece. But first you should get a faster method of making money. What is your method now? When you go feather dragon god, you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kickler123 Posted November 4, 2009 Author Share Posted November 4, 2009 Right now im running nats while i buy the pure ess. Im managing to get around 440k per hour. The only reason i had wanted to do fire strikes is because theyre cheapest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mago Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 Runescape is a fun game. To feel superior train.To have fun do skillz. Its like..what you feel ! :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draconic Posted November 4, 2009 Share Posted November 4, 2009 The only reason i had wanted to do fire strikes is because theyre cheapest. No it's not. Time is money, and if you train using a different method you can save a LOT of time using a different method, and you can spend the time you saved making more money to pay for the faster method. Consider: [hide=Sharpeyex's Guide]First consider all alternatives and all possible payoffs Red chin from 95 to 99: approx 4.3m exp. For the purpose of this case study, the following assumptions apply: That you red chin undead monkeys at Ape Atoll dungeon;That you can gain 350k exp per hour.That you use 1500 red chins per hourThat your full inventory load of prayer pots (total of 20) can last you one tripThat it takes you a total of 1 hour to prepare all of the trips (including the bank access and the walk) Total amount of time needed: 4.3m / 350k = 12.28 hours, Total amount of trips: 12.28/1.5 = 8.18 trips Total Amount of prayer pots needed: 8.18 x 20 = 163.6 (approx 164)Total amount of red chins needed: 12.28 * 1500 = 18420Total Cost: 808 x 18420 + 11900 x 164 + 12.28h + 1h = 14883360 + 1951600 + 13.28h = 16834960(approx 16.8m) + 13.28 hoursNow the cost of training from 95 to 99 traditionally: bronze knives + yaksAssumptions:That it you gain 60k exp per hourThat it takes around 15 minutes to prepare and get to destinationThat you use up around 500 projectiles per hour Total amount of time needed: 4.3m / 60k = 71.67 (approx 72 hours)Total amount of projectiles needed: 71.67 x 500 = 35835 Total Cost = 35835 x 14 + 72 hours = 501690 + 72 hours Now the analysis: Red Chin cost 16.8m + 13.28 hours, while yaks cost 0.5m + 72 hours.So they are: (Let hours be h)u(-16834960 - 13.28h)andu(-501690 - 72h) Solve for h to see how much each hour should worth in coinsu(-16834960 - 13.28h) = u(-501690 - 72h)Assume that your utility for every coin and every hour on both side are equvalent for the purpose of this analysis-16834960 - 13.28h = -501690 - 72h16834960 + 13.28h = 501690 + 72h16834960 - 501690 = 72h - 13.28h 16333270 = 58.72hh = 278155 (approx 278k) So back to our question, should you red chin to 99 range?The answer is, according to the above data, If you can make more than 278155 per hour then yes you should, otherwise no, stick with the yaks.[/hide] When you go feather dragon god, you never go back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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