Keb_Ryo Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 I have a question, Do any of you all use Black Ice? Now be careful if you try this fire wall out. (not recomended) Its not a noob firewall and is for experts out here. Just wanting to know if there are any more of us out there or is it now just 3rd party users, I just use IE and XP sp2 and Black Ice, that's all that is running at start up, takes my pc less then 25 secs to FULLY boot, bet no one here can say that :P Any ways For the ones who go under ground, have you seen the new net task attack? Shield taking on some heavy hits, nothing getting trough, but fun to watch the attacks come, Belgian has been one of the most to produce it so far. My thoughts, With heavy Online buying this year, I think they are trying to create a leach or a block. been lots of scuttlebutt talk a bought the new wireless host, Any ways thought I would Ask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChaosSt0rm Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 use your head and you wont get keylogged, it surprises me how many get keylogged thru simple tricks and its plainly obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Fire walls CANNOT block everything, i dont know how you came to that conclusion but its wrong. Firewalls can block everything, the problem is that then no network traffic would get through. Which is not what people install a firewall for, or they'd just unplug their internet connection and save themselves some money. The problem starts when people allow traffic through a firewall, in order to use certain applications, or to make an internal webserver reachable, or have people login to their accounts from the outside. Then they make an error by opening a bad attachment, or forgetting to update that webserver, meaning they are vulnerable to flaws in it that have been publicized and are exploitable. That's how people get hacked: by allowing stuff in, and not making sure enough that what they allow in is actually okay. That's not the firewall's fault. And I don't believe the pentagon's mainframe has been hacked, but if it was hacked, I'm sure it would be because of user negligence. Just because it's the pentagon doesn't mean none of the thousands of employees there ever makes a mistake with regards to security. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 :roll: Darn how did that MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CORPERATION get past my firewall... Hacking is illegal in the US, whether you're the RIAA or not. If the RIAA was onto you for downloading, they'd get a warrant issued and have the police search your house, and take your computer for examination. They don't hack you personally, if they do, you could sue them just like they'd sue you for your illegal movie/music collection. Try reading the post again, did i SAY you only need 1 program, NO. But despite that fact it is impossible to be keylogged if you have process guard registered and configured properly Actually, you didn't mention any configuration, and you didn't mention any other programs, so you made it sound like all I needed to do was install Windows on a machine, install process guard, and then I would be safe. What, you're arguing that everybody knows you need antivirus, a firewall and some adware/malware remover as well? Guess what. The idiots you're trying to protect are the same people who will take your word as literally as I just did. But surely, whether or not process guard is installed, I bet it won't stop me downloading perfect keylogger and installing it. While of course, that's a stupid thing to do, people are like that. People are stupid. Installing programs doesn't stop people being stupid. People should be tought, so they are less stupid and don't need programs like that to stop the crap they themselves downloaded in the first place from running. how exactly have you tried to help this community? OMGGFD YOU GOT HAXD YOU DOWNSLAOED TE MACREOR!! Id rather actually give some advice that can actually help people without having 2 dozen morons jump all over me. Next time you try and help people out ill flame the cabbage out of you and see how you like it maybe? I suppose I could just try and get your post removed because of the personal insults, but I guess I can't really be ...ed to visit the IRC room right now. So... I don't like to parade the fact all over the place, but I have been a tech head here (I resigned from the position myself, because of personal reasons, none of anyone's business here). I've also had plenty of helpful posts here in the past. Just because I'm studying at university right now, and don't have the time to stick around these forums 24/7 doesn't mean I don't help anyone, nor does it mean I have never done so. I didn't 'flame the cabbage' out of you, I pointed out that your post was ignorant of the fact that programs don't fix user stupidity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted December 12, 2005 Author Share Posted December 12, 2005 :roll: Darn how did that MULTIMILLION DOLLAR CORPERATION get past my firewall... Hacking is illegal in the US, whether you're the RIAA or not. If the RIAA was onto you for downloading, they'd get a warrant issued and have the police search your house, and take your computer for examination. They don't hack you personally, if they do, you could sue them just like they'd sue you for your illegal movie/music collection. Try reading the post again, did i SAY you only need 1 program, NO. But despite that fact it is impossible to be keylogged if you have process guard registered and configured properly Actually, you didn't mention any configuration, and you didn't mention any other programs, so you made it sound like all I needed to do was install Windows on a machine, install process guard, and then I would be safe. What, you're arguing that everybody knows you need antivirus, a firewall and some adware/malware remover as well? Guess what. The idiots you're trying to protect are the same people who will take your word as literally as I just did. But surely, whether or not process guard is installed, I bet it won't stop me downloading perfect keylogger and installing it. While of course, that's a stupid thing to do, people are like that. People are stupid. Installing programs doesn't stop people being stupid. People should be tought, so they are less stupid and don't need programs like that to stop the crap they themselves downloaded in the first place from running. how exactly have you tried to help this community? OMGGFD YOU GOT HAXD YOU DOWNSLAOED TE MACREOR!! Id rather actually give some advice that can actually help people without having 2 dozen morons jump all over me. Next time you try and help people out ill flame the cabbage out of you and see how you like it maybe? I suppose I could just try and get your post removed because of the personal insults, but I guess I can't really be ...ed to visit the IRC room right now. So... I don't like to parade the fact all over the place, but I have been a tech head here (I resigned from the position myself, because of personal reasons, none of anyone's business here). I've also had plenty of helpful posts here in the past. Just because I'm studying at university right now, and don't have the time to stick around these forums 24/7 doesn't mean I don't help anyone, nor does it mean I have never done so. I didn't 'flame the cabbage' out of you, I pointed out that your post was ignorant of the fact that programs don't fix user stupidity. Im australian but in america the riaa had the senates pass new legislation to make what they are doing legal, media sentry is a company that works for the riaa that hacks computers to find proof of illigal downloads. And yes the pentagon has been hacked several times, the fastest way to get a job on the pentagons anti hacking team is to actually hack into the pentagon, if you manage to do it your offered a job. Also nasas main page has been defaced 4 times now. And yes it would stop you downloading perfect keylogger, it would ask you if you wish to allow the executable to run. Then if you still do it when perfect activates and tries to use a global hook or access an smtp server it would block it entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hannibal Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Im australian but in america the riaa had the senates pass new legislation to make what they are doing legal, media sentry is a company that works for the riaa that hacks computers to find proof of illigal downloads. Source? And yes the pentagon has been hacked several times, the fastest way to get a job on the pentagons anti hacking team is to actually hack into the pentagon, if you manage to do it your offered a job. I'm aware the pentagon has been hacked. Hacking the pentagon mainframe is different from 'just' hacking the pentagon, though. And well, I'm assuming they'd offer you a job - if they found out you got in at all. Also nasas main page has been defaced 4 times now. And yes it would stop you downloading perfect keylogger, it would ask you if you wish to allow the executable to run. Then if you still do it when perfect activates and tries to use a global hook or access an smtp server it would block it entirely. Then it blocks you without telling you? That's bad, apps not working without telling the user *why* they don't work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lews_Therin Posted December 12, 2005 Share Posted December 12, 2005 Im australian but in america the riaa had the senates pass new legislation to make what they are doing legal, media sentry is a company that works for the riaa that hacks computers to find proof of illigal downloads. And yes the pentagon has been hacked several times, the fastest way to get a job on the pentagons anti hacking team is to actually hack into the pentagon, if you manage to do it your offered a job. Also nasas main page has been defaced 4 times now. And yes it would stop you downloading perfect keylogger, it would ask you if you wish to allow the executable to run. Then if you still do it when perfect activates and tries to use a global hook or access an smtp server it would block it entirely. While there has been a bunch of crap legislation passed (DMCA), none of it allows breaking into a computer system. If a system in the Pentagon has been cracked from outside, then it has to have been through a port opened in the firewall. Nothing can get through a closed port. If NASA's front page has been defaced, it was probably due to a security hole in their web server software. Such holes have nothing to do with firewalls, since a firewall that blocked a web server's ports would display no page. Running a firewall with no passed ports is the same to the outside world as running a computer with no listening ports. In either of these configurations, it is not possible to break into a computer remotely. The user will have to run a trojan of some sort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaN Posted December 13, 2005 Share Posted December 13, 2005 And yes the pentagon has been hacked several times, the fastest way to get a job on the pentagons anti hacking team is to actually hack into the pentagon, if you manage to do it your offered a job. More like they throw you in Jail :lol: ~Dan64AuSince 27 Aug 2002 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 And yes the pentagon has been hacked several times, the fastest way to get a job on the pentagons anti hacking team is to actually hack into the pentagon, if you manage to do it your offered a job. More like they throw you in Jail :lol: Maybe if you refuse the job. :wink: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
123Yourgone Posted December 13, 2005 Author Share Posted December 13, 2005 Im australian but in america the riaa had the senates pass new legislation to make what they are doing legal, media sentry is a company that works for the riaa that hacks computers to find proof of illigal downloads. And yes the pentagon has been hacked several times, the fastest way to get a job on the pentagons anti hacking team is to actually hack into the pentagon, if you manage to do it your offered a job. Also nasas main page has been defaced 4 times now. And yes it would stop you downloading perfect keylogger, it would ask you if you wish to allow the executable to run. Then if you still do it when perfect activates and tries to use a global hook or access an smtp server it would block it entirely. While there has been a bunch of crap legislation passed (DMCA), none of it allows breaking into a computer system. Give me a second to find it for you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now