ThorDude88 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Im buying a new computer i have a budget of $1300 Australian dollars but i do not knw what i need included in my pc its not a total gaming pc jsut semi so it can play battlefield counter strike and all those also online games but i want it to be fast with what it does basically a all-round computer i do not know what to get any advice would be appreciated. `th0r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 http://www.centrecom.com.au They would be a good place to start looking at, they have some of the cheapest prices ive seen on australian sites. Now for something that might suit you. AMD Athlon 64 3000+ (S939) - $215.60 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_27_29&products_id=11477 Gigabyte GA-K8VT890-9 motherboard - $133.10 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_36_63&products_id=13944 WD 200Gb 7200 8Mb Cache SATA Hard Disk - $123.20 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_107_22&products_id=5885 Kingston 1Gb PC3200 DDR Ram - $144.10 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_23&products_id=16856 Gecube ATI Radeon X600XT 256Mb (PCIE) - $149.00 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_26&products_id=16360 Pioneer DVR-110 DVD Re-Writer (16x/8x Dual Layer Black) - $69.30 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_49&products_id=16766 Proview 17" LCD Monitor - $299.00 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_25&products_id=16770 Coolermaster Centurion 5 CAC-T05 Black/Silver (350W True PSU) - $126.50 - http://www.centrecom.com.au/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=93_60&products_id=9226 Total - $1259.80 Something like that would be alright for you. I put in a monitor but if your planning to reuse one you have, thats an extra $300 that can be put into other parts. The case i listed there has a 350w psu, im unsure of the psu's brand so it may cause problems. That psu has SATA connecters so it should be able to power your hard drive. So if you dont need a monitor, you can put some money into a better psu like this. And if you dont need that monitor, you could upgrade the graphics card because that one would be alright, but if your able to reuse the monitor, you could upgrade the graphics card. So yes, any one disagree with what ive posted or something isnt compatible with something else? Correct me so he can make a better decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blade995 Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Everything looks good. I would go with a monitor faster than 16ms refresh though. I would go with 8ms or lower. 16ms is still fine if it will put the computer over buget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Now that i look at it, the cheapest monitor with 8ms refresh rate is only $11 more than the other one. So a monitor like this might be ok if you can afford the extra price involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorDude88 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 wheres this centrecom place is it australia wide cause im in wa :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosbringer Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Generally, you need a 500W PSU, because that was, if you wish to upgrade your system, with say a better Graphics card, you'll have the required power. If you really can, try and reuse your old screen, you'll be able to get a better graphic card and a more potent PSU then (Try a Sapphire x800 GTO 256MB card) and generally any 500W PSU will do, except for a SHAW brand, that brand is very compatible with the X### series of graphics cards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorDude88 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 the store im using to buy the parts from is http://www.ple.com.au stuart_g i can only find some of the parts that u had down at this store the rest i dunno what ill get? if u get can u find a good set up with the parts from the ple store? thanks alot only if u can. `th0r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Freight Information "Our appointment of these carriers gives us the greatest level of flexibility with regards to nation wide coverage and ensures our freight charges are highly competitive." So yeah, they deliver australia wide. But ill use the site you gave me, just because im nice. And ive got nothing better to do. Edit: Ive had a look through their site, and they dont have the greatest range ive ever seen and the site isnt set up that great either... But see if you like the looks of this. MBRD FOXCONN S939/PCIe/SND/LAN/NF4 - $139 - http://www.ple.com.au/components.php?select=MBRD&PHPSESSID=kpf2cp99m548aq6j8t9aon88a6 AMD ATHLON 64 3500+ S939 VENICE CORE - $319 - http://www.ple.com.au/components.php?select=CPU&PHPSESSID=kpf2cp99m548aq6j8t9aon88a6 PC3200 1GB DDR400 DIMM - $129 - http://www.ple.com.au/components.php?select=MEM&PHPSESSID=kpf2cp99m548aq6j8t9aon88a6 200GB 7200RPM HARD-DRIVE SATA - $146 - http://www.ple.com.au/components.php?select=HDD&PHPSESSID=kpf2cp99m548aq6j8t9aon88a6 ATI RADEON X700 SUPER PCIE/512MB/TV/DVI - $165 - http://www.ple.com.au/components.php?select=VC&PHPSESSID=kpf2cp99m548aq6j8t9aon88a6 PIONEER DVR-110D DVD WRITER W/SOFT BK OEM - $79 - http://www.ple.com.au/components.php?select=OPT&PHPSESSID=kpf2cp99m548aq6j8t9aon88a6 ANTEC TRUEBLUE 480W POWER SUPPLY - $129 - http://www.ple.com.au/components.php?select=PSU&PHPSESSID=kpf2cp99m548aq6j8t9aon88a6 ThermalTake SOPRANO 430W P4 TOWER/BLK - $159 - http://www.ple.com.au/components.php?select=CASE&PHPSESSID=kpf2cp99m548aq6j8t9aon88a6 Total - $1255.00 Now that system might be worth looking into. Not 100% sure if its all compatible, because they gave next to no description on most products. Personally, i dont really like that site because of their lack of range and lack of descriptions, but whatever, its the site you chose so i picked parts. Hope this is of some help to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorDude88 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 i was told foxconn motherboards are not so got. :\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Well, take a look at their site and find another socket 939 mother board. The only ones there from a decent company are asus sli boards and unless you have the money, which you dont, buying an sli board isnt worth it. So foxconn is the only other brand there with a socket 939 board with pci-e that isnt an sli board. Like i said, they dont have a very good range so i didnt have much choice then to use that one. Only other option you have if you want a decent board is to swap over to the asus socket 775, but thats only got an agp slot, and agp is getting out dated. The other option is for a intel board with pci-e, but if youve looked, youll notice there not the cheapest. In the end, it all comes down to your decision. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorDude88 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 Stuart i changed the motherboard to a: MBRD ASUS A8N-SLI DELUXE S939/PCIe/SND# $249 i will have to buy windows also right? i sent ple a email asking if it would be compatible so il lget back to u.... `th0r Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Slightly off-topic: I have never seen such a poor range of parts before... although I failed to find even a single aussie store with a good range. I even checked the aussie pricespy and after looking through 12 shops I gave up. On ropic: On your budget and for the system, the ASUS A8N-SLI is overkill (it is compatible, it is socket 939). The foxconn board would be the best one to consider. Foxconn is not the best of brands, but they still make usable products. The extra money which the ASUS board costs would be better spent on a better video card, I would suggest a GEFORCE 6600GT PCIe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Yes youll have to buy windows, so that another $200-300 youll have to spend. A SLi motherboard is a waste of money if your not intending to get two cards to run in sli, but what ever, your money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorDude88 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 ok so my best bet is to just buy a already made pc and jsut upgrade it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stuart_G Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 Now what gave you that idea? If your considering to go with something from dell or harvey norman, its not the best idea. Sure most prices include a monitor, but its not the best idea buying a premade because when you build a custom, you know what parts and brands are in it. I went through all the prebuilt computers on that site and the only ones in your price range are ones with a celeron chip, and there not that good. I still think its in your best intrest to send centre com an email and see if they ship to where you live, because their range is much, much better than this PLE computers one. Also, if you decide to get a 6600GT, get this one, NVIDIA GEFORCE 6600GT PCIe/128MB/TV/DVI, under their graphics card area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThorDude88 Posted January 10, 2006 Author Share Posted January 10, 2006 this is costing alot all that + windows is over the benchmark ill be going $1500+ thats crazyyyyyyyyyy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 10, 2006 Share Posted January 10, 2006 A few places where you can save money :) - Purchase a Sempron instead of a Athlon 64. They are about half the price, and for what you can afford the preformance difference in games should not be noticable. - A by-product of the sempron purchase would be the fact that you would now be purchasing a socket 754 motherboard, instead of the more pricy Socket 939. Should purchase one with a nForce4 chipset which would allow the use of PCI-Express which should work out to be slightly cheaper then AGP. - You should still aim to purchase 2x512MB Dual Channel DDR RAM. Should target cheaper brand such as twinmos or A-data to save a few more dollars. or you could buy a single 1GB stick. - You could save quite a bit with the PSU, depending on your choice of video card it might be possible to go generic. Although buying the cheapest decent brand would be wise, good brands include (Fortron, Enermax, Topower, Thermaltake, Antec, Zalman, Silverstone, OCZ), while ok brands include Superflower, Icute, Leadman/Powermax, raidmax.Probably best to aviod Deer, Hyena, Novia or generic PSU with cheap case. - With regards to hard-drive, you can purchase a smaller drive and save more. - The Monitor can be a big source of savings, You can choose to go 2nd hand CRT, probably could get a 17" for around $25, or brand new CRT which would be around half the price of a simalar LCD. (Buying a 15" LCD would not save much compared with 17" LCD) - With regards to video cards I would provide a list of cards. In order of increaseing preformance. These cards I consider good value for money. Radeon 9600PRO (AGP) Radeon X1300 PRO (PCI-E) GeForce 6600 (PCI-E,AGP) Geforce 6600GT (PCI-E,AGP) Radeon X800GT (PCI-E, AGP) To check out prices I suggest pricespy http://au.pricespy.biz/ The price you pay for buying a cheaper system is less preformance and less furture proofing. Sorry about any spelling errors, had to rush this and did not have much time to double check. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Militaris Posted January 11, 2006 Share Posted January 11, 2006 Decided to build a example computer with parts from PLE. CASE ANTEC SLK1650B BLACK CASE 350W $109 CPU AMD SEMPRON 3000+ 64BIT S754 $135 MBRD ASUS S754/AGP/SATA/SND/LAN/DDR400# $89 MEM PC3200 1GB DDR400 DIMM $129 HDD WESTERN DIGITAL 160GB 7200RPM 8MB # $111 VC NVDIA GEFORCE 6600GT 128MB/TV/DVI # (Make sure it is AGP) $209 OPT LG/SAMSUNG CD-RW 52X52X32 # $34 Total: $816 Now for the extras SFT WINDOWS XP HOME OEM (WITH NEW PC ONLY): $149 Monitor: MNTR ACER AF715 17" FLATSCREEN CRT BLACK# $159 KEYB LASER KEYBOARD & MOUSE OPTICAL $29 SPKR LOGITECH R-20 1XSUB 2XSPKR 2.1 $39 Total: $1192 With $100 dollars to spare, I do not think I forget anything. Potential upgrades include a better screen, better optical (CD/DVD) drive, better mouse/keyboard combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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