Ranged Calculator

[chenw]

Currently, Blisterwood Stake is not one of the weapons available in the calculator. Either that or I can't find it :(

[Sy_Accursed]

Probably because it's not a standard weapon people would use to train and in terms of showing max hit in the useful context (agaisnt vyres) the calculator would be inaccurate as there are other factors at play such as vyre corpses burnt. Besides you can type a custom range strength bonus in anyway.

 

None of the x-bane items appear either, at least not yet.

The same principle applies to them there are extra factors at play in the max hit.

[All_Bogs]

Hey,

 

I could add the stakes, but as Sy said, information surrounding how they function exactly against their intended targets (Vyre) is unclear at best. Are they used against regular monsters at all?

 

And yes, the situation is similar for x-bane bolts.

[chenw]

Throwing knives and darts are very rarely used anywhere, let alone Stakes.

 

I was trying to use the stakes' basic damage to guesstimate how the effects of Stakes on Vyres and the Flail skill stack together, but because the ranged strength was in between addy and rune darts, I had a hard time trying to find a ranged weapon that matched stakes in ranged strength (i eventually found Steel Javelins).

 

I'll post more info when I get it. But preliminary guesstimates indicate that, if the Official Wiki's description were to be taken true (50% damage boost to vyres), base damage from ranged level is calculated first, then Void and Eagle Eye. then the 100 damage from flail skill is added, finally 50% damage boost is applied.

 

I'll post more info once I test more, but the above is the only way I could get the damage of the stakes to go above 450, more than double of 214 I got from normal ranged weapon with 12 ranged strength, extreme, void and eagle eye.

[All_Bogs]

Throwing knives and darts are very rarely used anywhere, let alone Stakes.

 

I was trying to use the stakes' basic damage to guesstimate how the effects of Stakes on Vyres and the Flail skill stack together, but because the ranged strength was in between addy and rune darts, I had a hard time trying to find a ranged weapon that matched stakes in ranged strength (i eventually found Steel Javelins).

 

The default "custom value" options allows you to enter any ranged strength value.

 

I'll post more info when I get it. But preliminary guesstimates indicate that, if the Official Wiki's description were to be taken true (50% damage boost to vyres), base damage from ranged level is calculated first, then Void and Eagle Eye. then the 100 damage from flail skill is added, finally 50% damage boost is applied.

 

I'll post more info once I test more, but the above is the only way I could get the damage of the stakes to go above 450, more than double of 214 I got from normal ranged weapon with 12 ranged strength, extreme, void and eagle eye.

 

Prayers like Eagle Eye are already included in the base damage. Then it'd be ((base damage * void bonus) + 100) * 1.5? Also, is there a source that verifies the +100 damage from flail skill? Not too familiar with these fancy weapons myself, so forgive me if this is common knowledge.

[chenw]

I was already maxed with the Flail skill when I did the quest, so unfortunately I do not, and cannot obtain any data from lower level skills.

 

However the +100 damage is most apparent in that at max skill, stakes can never inflict less than 100 damage when it hits, excluding misses and situations where the Vampyre has less than 100 Life left. The only source of the numbers I have gotten was from Rune wiki. Official RS Wiki only stated 50% damage boost, which alone is nowhere near enogh to explain the damage of the stakes (up to 500's).

 

Will try to get in contact with Jmod asking if they can offer insight to the actual bonus of the Flail Skill.

 

What it is starting to look like is that it's more like (Base damage + 100) * Void Bonus * 150%, ( (Base Damage * 1.2) + 100 ) * 1.5 only got 470's

[Sy_Accursed]

Blisterwood weapons in general seem to be unable to hit under 100 unless they miss.

That effect does not seem to be tied to flail skill, as it does not apply to the invadis flail as I've seen reports of it occurring for non-maxed flail skill people.

 

Flail skill definitely raises accuracy and max hit quite substantially though.

[chenw]

Not the case, although i have only seen the polearm used by someone else, they were hitting for numbers less than 100

[All_Bogs]

Our calculator is based on Obliv' formula which can be found here: [qfc]154-155-606-6079805[/qfc]

 

Taking a look at it, it would seem that the Void bonus is also factored into your base damage. It influences your effective ranged level, and isn't just a 20% modifier tacked on afterwards. It is unlikely that this will multiply the +100 bonus damage from flail skill. Furthermore, it would seem most logical that the +100 is applied completely afterwards. If the formula were ...

 

(base damage * void bonus + 100) * 1.5

 

... and you rolled a 0 for base damage, you'd end up doing 150 damage minimum, after all. RuneScape Wiki claims that each level of flail skill adds +10 to your minimum hit and then "refers" to a topic on the RSOF which states nothing of the sort - the JMod there merely claims that "the blisterwood weapons receive a very slight damage increase depending on how many vyrewatch corpses you have cremated". I'm taking that with a grain of salt. I couldn't find anything about blisterwood weaponry doing 50% bonus damage, either.

 

To me, it seems most logical that the damage increase works in a similar fashion to the Ivandis flail. That is, every time you increase your flail skill, the stakes' ranged strength is increased a little bit. The +100 thing could be explained by the fact that blisterwood is just that awesome and simply adds bonus damage. If people do hit for less than 100 with blisterwood weaponry, maybe the bonus scales with flail skill as well. At this point it's hard to tell. Entering a strength value of 62 (12 + 50 from the 10 flail skill-ups) and then using 99 Ranged + Eagle Eye + Void merely leads to a maximum hit of 355, so that doesn't explain it unfortunately.

 

I have an entire 1 Vyres killed myself, so if I every end up doing the quest I'll be sure to investigate.

[Speedyshel]

Currently, the Blisterwood weapons have a very erratic damage consistency and cannot be calculated accurately on the Max Hit Calculators with the current formula. If anyone does have details to add to this, please don't hesitate to PM me or post a topic about it, but currently this topic cannot be handled with the information we have.

 

I'm going to add the Blisterwood items to the calculators to give users a base damage to work with, but they are by no means an accurate portrayal of the true capabilities of the weapons.

 

PM me with any questions, comments, or concerns.

 

Regards!