firemakers curse

[Sy_Accursed]

Couple of minor things:

1) Would be good to suggest throwing knives (as a dark bow alternate), their speed helps you inflict more damage.

2) Last picture is caption as "Char glowing with rage. Lure her into the water to cool her off."...but she is not glowing

3) Worth mentioning it is easier to simply run and light fires while she glows, luring her to the water takes a lot of time and the effect ends of its own accord anyway. Also doing this method (lighting while shes glowing) you can easily keep 10+ fires light most of the time (where as you suggest 8+ is tricky)

4) Are you sure number of patterns effects pets? All evidence I've seen you just do Char's training and then all 4 appear floating around the room, I only did like 3 when checking it out and have all 4 pets.

5) The book of char note is wrong and leaves info out; it does not light logs. It incinerates them directly to ashes for double xp.

6) Step 7. the bolded cannot is causing some random line breaks on the beta site.

[Aurhora]

Hi Sy,

 

Thanks for taking the time to contribute. :) I'll respond to each of your items in turn.

 

1) Would be good to suggest throwing knives (as a dark bow alternate), their speed helps you inflict more damage.

 

We do already suggest throwing knives - see the suggested equipment list above the boss fight.

 

2) Last picture is caption as "Char glowing with rage. Lure her into the water to cool her off."...but she is not glowing

 

I've changed the text to reflect this but the idea is still the same.

 

3) Worth mentioning it is easier to simply run and light fires while she glows, luring her to the water takes a lot of time and the effect ends of its own accord anyway. Also doing this method (lighting while shes glowing) you can easily keep 10+ fires light most of the time (where as you suggest 8+ is tricky)

 

I've mentioned that the effect will run out on it's own, but I think it's more important for people to know what the minimum number of fires is that they should have up at a time. Tricky is a subjective thing and for some aiming for 10+ fires isn't going to be realistic.

 

4) Are you sure number of patterns effects pets? All evidence I've seen you just do Char's training and then all 4 appear floating around the room, I only did like 3 when checking it out and have all 4 pets.

 

I'll ask someone to check this out.

 

5) The book of char note is wrong and leaves info out; it does not light logs. It incinerates them directly to ashes for double xp.

 

Clarified and corrected.

 

6) Step 7. the bolded cannot is causing some random line breaks on the beta site.

 

I'll ask our coders to look at it.

 

Thanks again for submitting; I'll leave this thread open until everything is resolved.

 

~Aurhora

[ForsakenMage]

4) Are you sure number of patterns effects pets? All evidence I've seen you just do Char's training and then all 4 appear floating around the room, I only did like 3 when checking it out and have all 4 pets.

Confirmed and corrected. Thanks. :)

[Kimberly]

The thing about dark bows is that they're extremely slow and are really poor choices of range weaponry. Even a mage short bow, which is substantially cheaper, is a better alternative to it. Since it seems that the guide tries to apply to the every-player, suggesting equipment like the MSB and throwing knives is a nice mix of "average" and "ideal" setups.

Speed is more important than weapon quality in this boss fight.

 

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• Dark bow has a speed of 1 and costs almost 200k.
  
• Throwing knives have a speed of 7 and costs maybe 100k for a set of 100.
  
• Magic short bow has a speed of 6 and costs less than 1k.
  

(It's also important to note that Dark Bow isn't a long bow, so you're not sacrificing a lot of distance by choosing faster shortbow alternatives. )

 

So mentioning things like dark bows is really impractical. Plus I don't think that your defense rating lowers the power of Char's attacks, so there's really no benefit to wielding a crossbow (main benefit would be either defense/range attack, neither which matter in Char's fight) I used a chaotic crossbow because the guide didn't emphasize ranging speed as the most crucial factor of the fight my first few tries and I really struggled to do enough damage / keep a high number of fires lit to be worthwhile.

 

So I think what Sy was trying to say was that the guide should put a heavier emphasis on ranging speed, because right now it simply emphasizes ranging with no further detail. And I'm living proof that some people can struggle because of it :P

[Sy_Accursed]

Yeah defence rating has no impact on Char; I took same damage (for each attack) in my failed attempt in Torags and my successful attempt where I went "naked"

 

And I did totally miss it mentions knives in the main box, but I certainly concur a heavier emphasis is better; after all attack speed is king on Char.

A dark bow special at attack speed one hits 808 808 so 1616 total

Knives at 7 speed would do at least 3*808 (yeah i don't know the exact numbers for attack speeds, but I certainly know at 7 speed you get more than 2 attacks in compared to a 1 speed weapon) in the time before dark bow launched a 2nd shot.

[Aurhora]

Well, it looks like other people have had more success with faster ranged weapons so I've changed the guide to reflect that.

 

All changes have been made and will be visible shortly. Our coders have been notified about the layout issue and that should be fixed soon.

 

Thanks for contributing! Please message me if you have any questions.

 

~Aurhora