Cheat Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 My current plan is to train mage at rock lobsters but just for some comparison and because I like to know things I've got a couple of questions about mage training on ape atoll skele's. 1. Whats the best setup? Excluding Virtus as thats a bit too pricey for me but anything else goes pretty much. Void mage any good?2. Whats the xp/hr or casts/hr?3. Whats a rough cost of this from say 85-99 magic switching from burst to barrage once able to overload boost to 95. 4. Are any other spells other than ice ones viable? Cheers for the help. Pedicabo ego vos et irrumaboMinigames: Level 5 in All Barbarian Assault Roles PM me in game or on these forums to play. Over 500 Castle Wars Games with 460+ Tickets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Void mage isn't very good, but it does have a good prayer bonus. I'd use Akrisae + Ahrim's over void, but if you don't have that, void works fine. Sol > cstaff naturally. Otherwise just mix prayer bonus and mage attack with arcstream. Xp/hr should be 350-400k. 1100-1200 casts (1200 theoretical max). About 50m? 60m? Smoke is alright, more so for lobsters (because poison doesn't give xp, it's not useful for skeles, but extra kills at lobs means more charms). Blood is very expensive, shadow less so but still much more than ice. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis1330 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Void mage isn't very good, but it does have a good prayer bonus. I'd use Akrisae + Ahrim's over void, but if you don't have that, void works fine. Sol > cstaff naturally. Otherwise just mix prayer bonus and mage attack with arcstream. Xp/hr should be 350-400k. 1100-1200 casts (1200 theoretical max). About 50m? 60m? Smoke is alright, more so for lobsters (because poison doesn't give xp, it's not useful for skeles, but extra kills at lobs means more charms). Blood is very expensive, shadow less so but still much more than ice. just wondering why Akrisae? Ahrim's has higher mage attack. Also why is void mage worse then ahrims? By how much? Not saying you're incorrect on either (I have no idea), just curious. I am not a skiller, but i do some skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Akrisae's hood has one less mage attack for 4 prayer bonus, the rest Ahrim's is probably best. Void mage is a bit worse, I don't recall the exact amount but you can approximate the difference by multiplying the mage attack bonus with void by 1.3 and adding 64*.3, and comparing that to the mage attack without void. You lose hood/legs/shield/gloves, totalling 53 mage attack (48 with mage's book instead of arcane). Works out to 198 vs. 145*1.3, which is 188,5, which is a difference of 5%. You also gain only 1 prayer bonus (arc+Akrisae hood vs. elite void top&legs). Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Artemis1330 Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 Yes just checked and you are absolutley correct. Difference is 5.267%. The prayer difference is 23 with void and 19 with ahrim top+bottem and akrisae hood, which will probably only shorten a trip by 20 mins. I am not a skiller, but i do some skills. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 To my knowledge, no one's published any data on void mage's accuracy boost. The number we use now is 30%, which most people are certain is wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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