Deep thoughts. . . *stolen from Barihawk!*

[Blackbane]

So. . . the cabbage cult is still going strong. . . some days its up, some days its down.. whatever.

 

 

 

The reason I am writing this is because mainly, my mind needs to escape from my life as it is. I have moved out to a new place (livin independant for 2 years now!) and just things are. . . . crazy. . . .

 

 

 

I live in a green world. I have a green bed, and coincidently, my new room was painted green.

 

 

 

I also just thought about something. . . about how green was always a favourite colour of mine. I always liked how it accented my eyes, and my blonde hair.

 

 

 

whatever.

 

 

 

So I have been thinking lately about a serious issue with humanity. Its sortof about censorship. Censoring our feelings.

 

 

 

To those of us slightly more experianced idiots out there, that have been dabbling in the love game for awhile. Have you noticed a trend at all in your relationship building? Im not talking only love and romance. Relationships with friends, girls (guys for the ladies). . . . jobs. . . . hobbies.

 

 

 

When you were younger, or at least when I was younger. People did things without thought. A coupl would throw their souls at each other without worrying about the consequences. And in those few weeks, months, years or however lon the relationship lasted. . . you would have the most happiest people on the planet. But as those two now single people grow older, their dating becomes more thoughtful. More logical. They know now more "who their type is" , avoiding certain people.

 

 

 

Mainly, being more logical and "grown up" about who they choose to call a friend, the activities they do with those friends. Its all rather ludacris.

 

 

 

Isn't love, between friends, or between lovers, supposed to be deeper than anything logical? Do you call your close friend 'friend' because you buy each other beers? because they are useful to have around? cause you spend time togeather? No. I thought you connected with someone and went all out for them because there was a connection. A mutual 'love' or 'relationship' that drew you close.

 

 

 

And I noticed that the more we try to quantify how much we love someone, the less that love means. Instead of loving someone because. . . you LOVE THEM. . . . you attach yourself to what you like about them.

 

 

 

and as for romantic love. . . the biggest thing I am struggling with right now is when you meet someone and you try and think your way through a situation. Trying to always do what is the most right.

 

 

 

here's my findings so far:

 

 

 

LOVE IS ILLOGICAL.

 

 

 

So my statement I shall throw out there is:

 

 

 

Love, because you love. Provisos, conditions, reasons, and explanations for why you love your best friend, girlfriend, mother, God, just go against the whole beauty that is, love.

 

 

 

Comment on that. Discuss. I know this isnt the most appropriate forum for this sorta thing, but I figure a forum with youngsters, adults, teens, yo adults all in different stages of life could give some interesting angles.

 

 

 

Or maybe at the very least, we will all take a moment to think about things in hteir own life. . .. but dont think too much. . . enjoy the gift that we as humans have been given.

[Bubsa]

You know when you love someone, but you never know how much until it's too late. It's a cruel and unpredictable mistress, yet we are tied to it. Love is the single constant in the world in which everyone lives for. Love for a partner, a sibling, a country, a belief, whatever the cause, it exists because we believe in it. You can believe in it in whatever way you want. Love is independent; it doesn't mean happiness, sadness, pride or guilt. Money can't buy it, man can't bottle it. Deep down in your heart and soul, you know what makes you love, in ways which are different to everyone, but which all hold the same significance.

[dusqi]

You're right, it is sad when practical considerations are taken into account before pure feelings.

[Ragen]

Bloody hell bubsa.... that was beautiful.

[Biabf]

Bloody hell bubsa.... that was beautiful.

*Listens to the sobs coming from Ragen's computer*

 

Nicely written... *Claps*

[assassin_696]

Love, a word often overused is some situations, but never used enough in others. I guess I was one of the skeptics who used to laugh at my friends when they said they loved a girl, but now i've been in the same situation I know exactly how they feel. No one can tell you whether or not your in love with someone, and there's no definitive checklist to define it. For some love means giving their life for someone or something; for others it might be a simple thing like getting up 10 minutes earlier to make the person you love a drink, every single morning. Not because you have to, but because you want to. Love is not stated in the laws of physics, it is not measurable or even predictable. But as Bubsa so beautifully said it's what we live for. I don't just mean the happy romantic hearts and flowers sort, but the sort that keeps you fighting to the bitter end, to the end of every last sinew and nerve no matter what. Be it for country, friend or family, love really is all around us.

[pianofrieak2]

Interesting topic.

 

 

 

Personally, I think love is what makes humans different from every animal on the planet. It makes us different, better. But anyway, I can agree with your statement about quantifying love.

 

 

 

Eventually we fall in love with the person's traits instead of who they are. I love you for the way you look or the way we have fun when we do X together. But isn't that what society is becoming?

 

 

 

What can YOU do for ME?

 

 

 

It's sad, but it's why marriages fail so much. When your focus is on you instead of 100% on your spouse, marriages get tough and then the people bail. It needs to be all about the other person.

 

 

 

Love. Impossible to quantify. And, yet, I feel as if you need to look at the practical aspects of it. You can't just join a relationship for the feelings. Think about it!

 

 

 

What happens if you get married and then the feelings disappear? You get older, the spouse gets older, and now you have no "spark." Do you just bail out? No, marriage is supposed to be a covenant, to survive through everything.

 

 

 

Yes, trust your feelings but also look beyond that. Love is different. It's more than feelings.

 

 

 

And the funny thing about love is this: It usually begins with friendship and turns into something deeper.

[Blackbane]

indeed.

 

I think I wasn't thinking about WHAT IS LOVE, more rather, WHY WE LOVE.

 

 

 

WHy do we settle for less? because its a 'good match'?

 

The problem with just loving someone so purely, is it leaves you WIIIIIIDE open. When you younge, you havnt been burned before. After you have trouble/heartbreak, the next time you fall in love, your a little more careful. .. and next relationship you have, a little more careful..... until eventually, its not really love anymore but a good situation to be in.

 

 

 

Some people say they are glad their highschool days are behind them, and all the stupidity that happened. But to me: stupidity is something the world needs. Love is stupid. It is illogical. Falling in love was so much more. . . satisfying in highschool when all you had to worry about was:

 

 

 

I love you, and commit myself to you

 

you love me, and commit that back.

 

 

 

I apologize for bad typeing, but my keyboard cuts out now and then and messes up, and I can only fix so much. . . .

[Blackbane]

it was brought to my attention that this post sounds depressing. . ..

 

 

 

I did not intend for that to be the case, it was merely something that I have been thinking about that maybe would spark some interest debate/discussion.

 

 

 

Im quite happy with my social life, and this isnt some emo "i hate love cause no one loves me!" thread :P

[Bubsa]

I think I wasn't thinking about WHAT IS LOVE

 

Baby don't hurt me, don't hurt me, no more.

 

 

 

Sorry, why we love? It's literally what makes the world go round mate. If we couldn't love, we wouldn't live. There's no point in trying to fathom why we were created that way. We were made simply to enjoy it, whatever your religious belief.

 

 

 

I don't need to know why something 'is' in order to feel it. In essence, "I love, therefore I am" :P

[assassin_696]

Why do we love? Because it is the ultimate feeling of self completeness. It allows us to justify doing things for that person others might call unrational. And above all, because it feels right. You want to be in love with that person, even though it might not be working out for the best, because love is the only way to describe your feelings for that person.