MechanicalKarasu Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Ok, I'm f2p, and making an Archer Pure. I plan (or planned) - as a short term goal - to have; 60 Range 20 Defense 40 Magic 1 Prayer 1 Attack 1 Strength Which would make my pure (according to Tip It's Combat Calculator) level 45 combat. But before closing the screen, I changed the "20" value to "40" (and the hitpoints accordingly). The new calculation came out as "51". Here's my question: A lot of people say that I shouldn't get more than 20 defense because otherwise it couldn't really be considered a pure, and getting 40 defense is useless anyway. But, I don't really see what they mean. Wouldn't it, in my case, be worth getting my defense to 40? My combat will only go up a measly 6 levels, which won't really matter because I'm going to be PKing in deep wild, plus I'll get to wear a Dragonhide Body and get a nice range bonus along with a cooler outfit. So... yeah. Am I right in saying I should raise my defense (it's 20 right now) to 40? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Icingdeath Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I wouldn't go for any defense at all. Those 'measley' levels can mean a lot, even in the deep wilderness. I really wouldn't call it an era. It was more of a definitive time period during which dinstinctive characteristics were expressed in similar ways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goblinmatt12 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Thats the point.....level doesnt matter in deep wildy. It wouldnt be too hard to get def up anyway. I say, if your going to be in lvl 6+ wildy most of the time GO FOR IT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
meol Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 I'd say that you should either keep it at one, or get it to 40. 20 has too little bonuses IMO. This signature is intentionally left blank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShadowSam19 Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 if you do decide to go to 40 defense, keep in mind you would have to complete dragon slayer to wear the dhide chest piece, which I believe would add some att/str lvls, though i'm not sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MechanicalKarasu Posted July 10, 2006 Author Share Posted July 10, 2006 Yeah, dragon Slayer gives you a couple attack and strength levels, but not near enough to affect your level. ^_^ I think I'll get my defense to 40. ^_^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomster Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 The equation for F2P rangers (and P2P) is different to F2P melee or mage, since a melee fighter only gains better defensive equipment, while a F2P mage has nothing at all with any defence requirement. The ranger gains attack bonuses from better armour... +6 (over plain leather) for the 10 defence hard leather body. +6 for the studded leather body at 20 defence - no attack improvement over hard leather. +13 for dragonhide at 40 defence - if you do not wish to carry more than 40 def, do dragon slayer with 34 (and a bit). In this case, extra defence levels can also increase attack, though my rough calculation suggests that only 10 defence / hardleather actually comes out on top. For dragonhide, ignoring the hitpoint effect: 1. 13 higher ranged attack would be 6.5 extra combat levels 2. 40 defence is 9.75 extra combat levels Since you already have 20 defence, d-hide is +7 over studded 1. 7 more ranged = 3.5 levels 2. 20 more defence = 5 levels On pure attack grounds, the extra bonus does not fully compensate for the extra combat levels, on the other hand, you also resist damage better - a full dragonhide ranger is pretty tough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tq_69er Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Unfourtantley f2p pures are now too common, i advise making a hybrid with 60 attack and 80 strength, 1 defence and prayer, magic lvl u feel happy with, and 70 range You would own anybody Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normalize Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 Unfourtantley f2p pures are now too common, i advise making a hybrid with 60 attack and 80 strength, 1 defence and prayer, magic lvl u feel happy with, and 70 range You would own anybody :D P00nage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanonator Posted July 10, 2006 Share Posted July 10, 2006 you can get upto 52 defence and still be considered a pure how? don't get prayer..prayer is the same principe as defence (according to the combat calculator) so you can easily get 40 def altough:get 76 ranged and 70 str for ranged/2h koing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shade_bandyt Posted July 17, 2006 Share Posted July 17, 2006 i'm not sure if its a rumor, but i think for the reward for dragon slayer, you get like 12k+ def exp, and 12k+ exp in the attack style you killed elvarg with. so if you killed him with ranged (try a cross bow and anti-dragon shield) you should get a few def levels and some bonus ranged exp now i'm not exactly sure, so youll want to find out for sure, instead of getting unnecessary combat from att levels. maybe you can ask runescape customer support to make sure. but if youre going for green hides, definitely do the quest before you train up your def Are you a member with a full bank and cancelling your subscription? Are you an F2P player that wants more bank space? Check out my guide on Going to F2P with a full bank Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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