tehno_lord Posted November 10, 2006 Author Share Posted November 10, 2006 lol i had a couple of 99ers in the mines here & they barely got the ore lol. They were getting the ore as fast as a lvl 90 mining so there's not really that much of a difference except that they get the ore anyway High lvl miners that don't use autos would rather use the coal for themselves & even if they sell it what makes you think that a couple more coal would make the market cllapse? I said that no player would bother raising the cb of an auto just to get in a lvl 2 guild where lvl 70+ers mine. I tested some autos & scars just to see how efficient they are. They're not that inteligent to hide from golems behind rocks & besides why are you so worried about? if the coal price drops i dun' care nore does jagex. Mining coal ain't really a profitable deal. Only mining runite & addy gets gp. For the 2mil i get by selling 11111 coal i could just as well mine some runite for it, or make items that can get me the gp faster. at point 6 u aren't really reading what i'm saying lmao. I gave an example. I didin't based it on your "skiller" word lol. Clearly u're just roaming the text without reading it properly just like every1 does. & i know what skillers are lo Yesdude i consider gp obsolete in my case. I barther rather than paying for gp. That usually goes in the advantage of the seller & i don't mind. & yes i'm playing for 10 h/day almost every day Finding solutions to make autos dissapear is easy but it also makes the game uncomfortable for the players. How would you likee very time you click a tree the tree starts asking u for a pin? or everytime u click a rock a random comes & attacks u?. So there area lot of solutions but they're only going to annoy the players. I came with the idea of the bank in the mining guild from the fishing guild bank. If having a bank close to a resource is so bad then y did they make the bank in the fishing guild ? & y some "rare" trees are placed so closely to a bank? I sugested a bank in the mining guild just for that. You dun' have to start yelling at me "NOOB IT"S WRONG COZE OF AUTO & ECONOMY OBLITHERATION" Again: a couple of coal won't affect the economy: the miners won't mine it faster. It's not like i sugested a faster mining rate for miners. It's a godam deposit box! F2P & proud of it !Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes.That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThurinEthir Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 It may not make them mine faster, but it will bring in more coal at a faster rate than usual. Why don't you understand that if more and more coal comes into the game, faster than people can smith it, the prices will drop? A couple of coal? Are you kidding? I'm guessing in a week, those high level miners will sell...50K coal? In a month, 200K coal. That's enough to change the price. You tested autoers? Shame on you, unless it was when you were a newb. (Still, shame on you) If you did test them as a newb, you better know that they're a lot better now. There might not be one yet that can, but sometime there will be autoers that can hide from monsters. Now you've proven you don't know ANYTHING about RuneScape's ore economy. Coal is the number one mining profit if you know how to do it right. I guess for level 90+ miners, addy/rune will be better, but unless you have that level 90 mining, coal or iron is the best. Iron will be better at some points, but coal isn't that much behind. And read what I said above about 200K into the game per month. Now you claim that I didn't read what you said. I read it. It said some stuff about SKELETONS, KARAMJA and TRAINING COMBAT. None of those have ANYTHING to do with skillers, which my point 6 was all about. And you play for 10 hours a day...That's 14 hours left a day for anything else. You probably have school/work, and that'll take up at least 6 hours. Leaving you with 8 hours. Now, if you go to school, you have homework. 2 less hours. 6 hours. You better have time to eat. minus half an hour. 5 1/2 hours. Half an hour for other stuff. 5 hours. So you sleep for 5 hours a day? :-s Autoers can easily bypass that PIN thing by not settting one. And autoers can once again avoid the combat randoms by running away when attacked. The only method I can think of is to raise the chance of getting good randoms, the ones that give you gifts. That way, autoers will be eliminated, and regular players will be happy. Because more people mine than fish. And the only "rare" trees that are close to a bank are in Seers', and those are willows and maples. And there's a bank in the fishing guild because what's the second closest bank? Seers' or Ardougne, a REALLY long walk. Fally east bank is a LOT closer. And I'm not yelling at you. I'm brining up points about why this idea would but some of the will realize the bad stuff and won't like it. And you go off about your "Couple of coal" Why do you think that only a couple of coal will be dragged in? With your new 46 coal a world, and I'm guessing there are 60 member worlds. That's about 2400 overall! And it sells for a price of 480000, 480K! It may not be a lot , but throughout a month or so, it will add up. Cenin pân nîd, istan pân nîd, dan nin ú-cenich, nin ú-istach.Ithil luin eria vi menel caran...Tîn dan delu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NJE03 Posted November 10, 2006 Share Posted November 10, 2006 Obviously some there would be some positive and negetive aspects to this but I think the positive would greatly outweigh the negative. Miners could have an additional incentive to get higher mining lvls besides just being able to mine new ores. That would be getting into additional areas in the guild that would have less competition as well as more high lvled ores. The ability to bank within the guild would really complete it. Yes, I could climb up the ladder and walk to the nearby bank but personally I would much rather stay down in the mines. As for "autoers having it easier" there is many ways that this could be prevented such as a question before you bank (similar to questions in security stronghold) even with a question it would still be better than walking to the fally. Or even adding some scorpians as some others said which may ruin it for skillers but regardless would stop autos from mining there. [spoiler=Stats:]Updated December 22, 2011: Total level - 1442 - 170M+ XP , Combat level - 115Combat skills: Attack - 90, Defence - 99 (24.45m+ XP), Strength - 90, Constitution - 99 (16.42M+ XP) Ranged - 99 (13.32M+ XP), Prayer - 60, Magic - 99 (13.25M+ XP)Non-Combat skills: Cooking - 99 (13.80M+ XP), Woodcutting - 99 (31.95M+ XP), Fishing - 90, Firemaking - 99 (24.82M+), Crafting - 90, Smithing - 90, Mining - 85, Runecrafting - 60, Dungeoneering - 85 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehno_lord Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Obviously some there would be some positive and negetive aspects to this but I think the positive would greatly outweigh the negative. Miners could have an additional incentive to get higher mining lvls besides just being able to mine new ores. That would be getting into additional areas in the guild that would have less competition as well as more high lvled ores. The ability to bank within the guild would really complete it. Yes, I could climb up the ladder and walk to the nearby bank but personally I would much rather stay down in the mines. As for "autoers having it easier" there is many ways that this could be prevented such as a question before you bank (similar to questions in security stronghold) even with a question it would still be better than walking to the fally. Or even adding some scorpians as some others said which may ruin it for skillers but regardless would stop autos from mining there. It does have flaws, i never called it flawless. I am completly aware of the impact more ore could have over the market & the bots that can be used to flood the new additions to the guild. But the coal is & will stay between 150-200 gp ea. Coze the sellers/miners make the price not the buyers & even so you buy the coal at the price of 150ea in low quantities (900-) & buy the coal for 200ea for 1k+ quantities. The higher the ammount, the higher the price. I sold 10k for 250ea (the max i ever heard for coal to get to) Automation will allways exist in all games that's y we have the report abuse button. Don't be afraid to use it. If it walks like a bot, mines like a bot, talks like a bot & looks like a bot it must be a bot. Either way jagex checks the player to see if it's a bot or not & you don't get punished for doing it. They never banned me for reporting 2 much (i do at least 4 reports/day) so y should u get banned for only 1 report ? (yeah.. bots do trade you if you follow them) Pure skilers won't have anything to worry since they could just stay at the lvl 60 guild with no worries The benefits for 70+ miners are: -more peaceful mining with no underlvls trying to steal their ore just to show off -a reward for reaching a certain lvl besides some lame ore -the recognition of being a good miner A:"i'm the best miner in the guild" B:"prove it!" A:*goes into the mine & laughs at the 10 year-old underlvl -having a place to talk to miners around his lvl & no fakers -bragging about what he does with his ore to some1 who cares & might even want to buy the guy's ore -having a deposit box in the mine without having to walk the 23 running point way to the bank The benefits for lvl 60 miners are: -no more high lvls showing off their skill by bothering others -more ore for them since the high lvls don't croud up the mines (don't u hate it when the mine is practically depleted of ore coze of 2 high lvls?) -having a new goal besides being ableto mine some inaccesible ore that's rather far from a bank (like runite) -having more fun with miners their own lvl than with arrogant higher lvls -higer lvls having to go through their mine might even hire them to mine coal the deposit box or bank could have the following advantages: -Add the lvl 60 miners a new goal: less walking to the bank -No more annoying traders near the banking area. Or even a gathering place for ore traders wich would be great -fast banking in exchange of some of the ore you mined (i'd rather waste half my inv than get out of the mines) -If your picks break you have fast access to gp to fix the pick or access to a new pick if u have 1 -A fast way to trade the ore so some1 in the guild - A fast way to check the status of your ore So i guess there really are more advantages than disadvantages to a bank in the guild & 2 more lvls. F2P & proud of it !Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes.That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scruff636b Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 i say we send it to jagex now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hyperbabe701 Posted November 11, 2006 Share Posted November 11, 2006 i agree with the different lvls cause its annoying when there is tons of lvl 60 miners in the guild and there beating the lvl 75 + at the coal i just don't agree with putting rune rocks down there and a bank would shatter the ore econmy *cough cough* They can't charge me for breaking into my own house *cough cough* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tehno_lord Posted November 11, 2006 Author Share Posted November 11, 2006 Trust me on this: you woulden't like rune rocks in there. I never said anything about rune rocks in there. All i said is for some more coal, addy & mith. It's only a sugestion they could put whatever they want in the other guild levels. All i want is for this to become reality & for a bank closer to the guilders that need it & deserve it It would be a greater goal than being able to mine some mile-away-in-lvl-46-wildy ore F2P & proud of it !Before you criticize someone, walk a mile in their shoes.That way, when you criticize them, you're a mile away and you have their shoes. XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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