Well ... if you look at the etymology of swastika, it means little thing of well being. Or summat. But etymology seems to be lost on some people.

 

The sanskrit word :svastika: comes from :su:, meaning "good" when translated into English, and ":asti:, an abstraction of the verb :as: -> "to be". :Svasti: therefore meaning "well-being" and :ka: is the diminuative suffix. :svastika: "little thing of well being"

 

 

 

 

 

Actually, what I want to say is that a symbol is defined by two factors : 1) The intent of the drawer or user of the symbol. 2) The interpretation of the view.

 

 

 

Number two seems to be ruining the reputation of the little thing of good luck. >.< But I guess you can't forget history, because if you do it's all too easy to be repeated.

 

 

 

Oh, and I'm proud to say that I burned some swastikas. Back in march I was an extra in the school play "The Sound of Music". I was a Nazi in the play, as were some other people. We had to wear these swastika armbands as a part of our costumes (about 7 guys). So at the party after the last showing of the play we 7 threw our armbands into a pit and lit them on fire. There was a speech, and the whole thing was so ceremonial. And touching. Moving. I'll never forget Paragraph 175, rawr. Though my part in burning the bands wasn't as great as one of the other 6 guys (he's Jewish). I talk too much :-(.

I went to a huge Buddhist temple in Vancouver recently when I was vacationing there...it turns out they actually use the swastika too though they call it something else, I believe. It also looks slightly different.

 

 

 

Ooh I've been there :D The statues there are incredible...

 

I remember seeing the swastika repeating in a pattern, on the trim of a rooftop.

 

 

 

EDIT: This the same place?

 

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4521/img1533et1.jpg

 

(too big to post :P)

I went to a huge Buddhist temple in Vancouver recently when I was vacationing there...it turns out they actually use the swastika too though they call it something else, I believe. It also looks slightly different.

 

 

 

Ooh I've been there :D The statues there are incredible...

 

I remember seeing the swastika repeating in a pattern, on the trim of a rooftop.

 

 

 

EDIT: This the same place?

 

http://img62.imageshack.us/img62/4521/img1533et1.jpg

 

(too big to post :P)

 

yeah, that might have been it. i think those two gray things in the center might have been removed though. hmm.

I'm an indian myself living outiside india and im in UK at the moment. I went to india recently for 3 weeks holidays and yes the swastika is a very auspicious symbol there it is in fact a symbol thought to bring luck, success etc.

 

 

 

So that is probably the reason why hitler chose that symbol along with the fact it is in an aryan symbol. But yes i respect the swastika. And nowadays when people see it they think "0mfg0rx h1t13r 5upp0rter,"

 

 

 

I infact never knew the aryan symbol was also an auspicious hindu symbol (until of course i went to india recently, im only 12 :XD: )

 

 

 

But yes the swastika has had too much punishment... however indians cant really shun germany. Presently most of the indians are descendants of the aryans (the people that became rulers of india in ancient times) and these people came from areas around germany so in fact the most ancient indian languages e.g Sanskrit is a mixtures of ancient celtic, clan, tribal and german languages i hear. So without the aryan race hinduism wouldn't exist because until before the aryans came natives worshipped nature while the aryans worshipped divinity, fear and power all these deities combined made hinduism the religion it is today. People can say the aryans are "bad" people but in fact. The East and the West have been influenced by the aryans tremendously and although there were it's downsides, "hitler" for instance was just looking for an excuse and used his aryan blood as one.

 

 

 

So we should not give germany and the swastika a bad name. Infact in germany they teach how terrible hitler was and how wrong he was, they do not promote him any discussion of hitler that is supportive of his actions are totally illegal in germany.

 

 

 

The Swastika is a sign of progress, success, power and so on. Let it still be treated as an auspicious symbol in my opinion because it is.

i never knew indians were nazis. oh and isnt it native american?

i never knew indians were nazis. oh and isnt it native american?

 

Congratulations, kid, the Advil company just scored a huge profit off of that post that you just made.

 

 

 

Haven't read the thread, have you? The Indians weren't Nazi's, Hitler was a grimy klepto who stole the symbol from them. It was a sacred symbol, a religious symbol. But the Nazis corrupted it, defiled it, perverted it.

 

 

 

And it's not the native americans. The Indians are the people who live on the subcontinent of India in Asia. They're named for the Indus river that runs through there. The Native Americans were originally called Indians because Chris Colombus was a directionless twit, he thought he landed on Asian when it was actually America. True Indians are the people of India.

i never knew indians were nazis. oh and isnt it native american?

 

Congratulations, kid, the Advil company just scored a huge profit off of that post that you just made.

 

 

 

Haven't read the thread, have you? The Indians weren't Nazi's, Hitler was a grimy klepto who stole the symbol from them. It was a sacred symbol, a religious symbol. But the Nazis corrupted it, defiled it, perverted it.

 

 

 

And it's not the native americans. The Indians are the people who live on the subcontinent of India in Asia. They're named for the Indus river that runs through there. The Native Americans were originally called Indians because Chris Colombus was a directionless twit, he thought he landed on Asian when it was actually America. True Indians are the people of India.

 

 

 

it was a good thing you got to him first. i might have used some pretty colorful language replying to hist post.

 

 

 

(to jackattack) first of all, you didn't read my post. second of all, you just struck my biggest pet peeve of all...native americans are different from indians. native americans are from america. indians are from india. we are in the 21st century. get it through your head.

I remember that the swastica was a symbol used by another folk except the Indians/Hindus (however they are called), that lived in Europe. With school we went to something like the Digsite in RS (can't find a good english word for it), and there they found a swastica symbol. But it has a difference with the nazi simbol. If you would translate the Dutch name of a swastica into English, youd call it a 'hooked cross'. The ancient swastica's 'hooks' went to the left, when nazi's swastica has his hooks to the right. Probably becuase the nazi's were politically right. (not saying it was right wath they did, in politics there is left and right, atleast in Belgium lol).

 

 

 

Sorry if anything in this post is untrue/not explained well but as all you were talking about those Hindu guys I wanted to share Hitler did not use the Hindu symbol (i think)

you dont need to scalp me.

Symbol- something that stands for something else.

 

 

 

The swastica was used to stand for something bad. Therefore the symbol of a swastica is bad.

 

 

 

You have to look on the macroscopic level. Macroscopically the swastica is evil.

 

 

 

Of course you did not read what he said. The sign was used to for good whishing in the Hindu rituals.

 

Hitler stole it, why; I still haven't heard from the creator of the topic, and then it became the symbol of the Nazi rule. Of course 95% of the people throughout the world don't realise that it originated in India and you're right that that's why it's considered bad.

 

That's what the entire topic is about: to broaden your mind and to change that narrow point of view.

ok, lets forget about the holocaust then? you disgust me. I hope the swastica is never forgotten as a symbol of what happend during world war 2.

ok, lets forget about the holocaust then? you disgust me. I hope the swastica is never forgotten as a symbol of what happend during world war 2.

 

So I suppose you'll remember the swastika, but forget the eagle?