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good idea... BUT REALLY BAD GRAMMAR!! i begun reading with the tought is this english or..... :-s i think most young people(especialy, not english one), will have much trouble with this guide.... please write whole words.... i know my grammar isnt perfect and i make some mistakes...but it would look much better if you improve your tekst... (or ad least ad an dictionary) thats why i give 3/10

ermm...????why are there 2 times the same post from different accounts...???? weird..... :-s

yes...but i recom to take some food with ya and some good armour rather than a full HAM you could try lvl 2, if you have done the quest... if you have lots of food you will survive

nice work...but i dont tink its realy needed..there are lots of "guides"where the same thing is said example: every inlogpage of runescape. on the tip.it! site and other fansites.. but it looks really nice...maybe it can added to the site i give it an 7/10 keep up the good work :thumbsup:

added a small note about bolts..... :

some minor changes, and added a list for the second lvl which i suggest to keep(the others you may high alch) : thanks........

i know...but it its with all things...after a few weeks theyre not cool or hot, (or something in between) :XD: anymore... if youre still growing a tattoo transforms becaus your skin is moving....if your getting fat(and most people DO) its the same... when you choose now a picture in about an year you will think its ugly... etc... etc...

eeww...piercings.... i dont like them its much cheaper if you put yourself a nail through your skin... hmmm....thinking...how much fun would it be if YOU would go to a MRI scan. i wouldnt take one of those...lots of trouble with an MRI scan (hihihihi(lol)) :XD: and you transform yourself into an lightning conductor.... pircings might be fun...but its a lot harder to put it of, other than a nice necklace or ring... wouldnt recom an tattoo either, those are really hard(and painfull) to remove

thanks!! :

captainkid.......at first...its already 4 days on...i think pokemama or an other mod would already closed it by now if its has to be. second.ITS ONLY FOR THE SPECIAL ATTACK TO LET IT NOT GOING TO WASTE AND ITS SIMPLE A DDP BECAUS YOU CAN DO IT 4 TIMES,YOU MAY CHOOSE YOUR WEAPON< BUT I RECOM A DDP otherwise i would simply kill the guards, but then you willl not gt the keys....its only a thing so you wont get bored third...some things (like amulets) may take a lot time to sell. but dueling rings or rings of forging can you get rid of withing 15 minutes (at least i sold 50 duelings and 35 forging....took me 12 minutes) and ITS YOUR OWN CHOICE LIKE I WROTE. but i said this will get you the most money, but might take longer fourth, max is 1 clue....so you have to get a lot to the bank AFTER you did the clue.... hope this is now finished, and we can res now..... but if you have tips, could you write them out? if they are really better, in my opinion i will add them thanks

thanks again... at first, .......this isnt locked...yet...and if i see all those good replyes it wont happen really fast second, ..... i said a dds OR an other weapon with an good special attack i suggest dds becaus you can use it 4 times...whip only one...and if youre a bit high you wont need the attack at all. its just an waist ofthe spec. bar if you dont use it, that was the point. third...yes, it might be profitable to high alch them immediately, but you will get tonns of more money if you enchant them and sell them (only look at the diamond amulet) AND you get sÃÆÃâÃâóoooooooooooooooo much clues that you will be at the bank almost every trip....

also thanks...!!!!! :D i will try :wink:

thanks!!!:D

added a link to my freshly made guide...(check thieving) http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?p=4385217#4385217

check out my other forgotten minigame guide: http://forum.tip.it/viewtopic.php?t=642014 this is a guide how to thieve ham members...how to get your most profit and what is the smartest way to work. 1. what is/are HAM 2.requirements 3.suggested outfit 4.first level 5.second level 6. rewards 7.bolts...? 1. what is/are HAM HAM is a group of npc's thats fighting against monsters (especialy cave goblins, if you've done the quest). these npc's are an exelent place to get your thieving lvl up, [wagon] they have also good things you can get, like clue scrolls(lvl1), and other stuff 2. requirements at first a minimum thieving lvl of 15, but i suggest lvl 23 becaus you can get the big rewards(like diamond amulets) quests: The Lost Tribe (also death to dorgeshuun for the big money) 3.suggested outfit pic: wearing: a full ham outfit(you will fail less with a full outfit) gloves of silence, (if you dont nhave them, use ham gloves) prayer book(for defence, you could also use an other shield, but with this i got the least damage) a stafe of your choice (suggest fire(for high alching) or air(for teleport)) NO ARROWS!!! you can put the arrows you thieve in it so that will save space ring of wealth, if you can afford it...there are rumours it says it increases your chance of getting good items inventory: boots of lightnes(if you have a clue you need a lot of running) energy pot.not realy nesesary) tele runes tele jewelry(lots of dueling for easy acces bank) high alch runes(only if you go to the second floor) a weapon with a special attack suggested(you can use the special attacks to kill guards....its a waste if you not use it. you can get the same things of killing them as if you thieve ham) some coins(always handy) chisel(you will get lots of low level gems, you can make them into bolt tips, if you dont the gem,s will take a lot of space) 4.first level suggested spot is east from the middle cave, you can easely trap them there so they wont rune away and you can easely thieve them (note: dont get with 2 or more on 1 trapped HAM member, then they can escape, yes....it is weird) pic: (red spots are suggested, to trap the HAM member) if you have brought a weapon with special attacks use them on the guards 5.second level now this is the fun part. to get there you need to have done the death to dorgeshuun quest picklock the trapdoor at the red arrow: from these you wont get only the normal stuff but also bronze, silver, iron and steel keys which you can open chest with and get lots of jewelry first thieve some guards there until you have some keys. pick lock the door where you want to open the chest. note: in some worlds the guards are NOT moving. so you wont get caught, if they do move kill them if they spot you picklocking the door.(no lockpick required) here is a pick which chest is which key: note: dont pick the bronze door..there is a crack in the wall where you can easely pass. you can make tons of money by highalching or enchanting them and selling them. 6. rewards rewards you can get from both levels: LOTS OF THIEVING XP :D item (keep? Y/N)(use? ...) feathers(Y) (if you also got logs, fletch them into arrow shafts and use with feathers) logs(Y/N(choose)) (see feathers or tinderboxes) tinderboxes(Y/N) (use to burn logs) cowhide(N) (not worth it to take to bank)(unless you want to walk or tele a lot) iron ore(N) (not worth it to take to bank) coal(N) (not worth it to take to bank) buttons(N) (if you polisch them before you drop you get some crafting xp) thanks to Kaphias for the information on this low level uncut gems(Y) (cut them to bolt tips to save space) bronze axe(N) (not worth it to take to bank/sell) bronze pickaxe(N) (not worth it to take to bank/sell) steel axe(N) (not worth it to take to bank/sell) steel pickaxe(N) (not worth it to take to bank/sell) iron axe(N) (not worth it to take to bank/sell) iron pickaxe(N) (not worth it to take to bank/sell) leather body(N) (not worth it to take to bank/sell) rusty sword(Y) (sharpen them at you house to get swords or longswords upto rune, or take them to tindel who will do it for you for a fee) damaged armour(Y) (repair it at your house, you can get a plate upto mith) clue(Y)(solve it!!) herbs(N)(only identify for xp, mostly they are guam, tarrorim or marrentil) bronze, iron arrows(Y)(put them in your arrow spot, saves space) MONEY!!!! only second level:(from the chests) also:LOTS OF THIEVING XP and MAGIC XP(for enchanting or highalching) also money..... item(enchant them to....) gold ring(n/a) gold necklace(n/a) gold amulet(n/a) saphire ring(ring of recoil) saphire necklace(game necklace) saphire amulet(amulet of magic) emerald ring(dueling ring) emerald necklace(binding necklace) emerald amulet(amulet of defence) ruby ring (ring of forging) ruby amulet(strenght amulet) diamond ring(ring of life) diamond amulet(amulet of power and cut gems upto diamond things i suggest to keep or sell to other people rather than high alching: (they are worth the waiting) spahire ring(recoil) emerald ring(dueling) emerald necklace(binding) ruby ring(forging) diamond ring(life) diamond amulet(power) the other from the second lvl you may high alch or try to sell...selling gives more money, but takes time...its upto you 7. bolts???? as i already said...you get some gems which you can cut into bolttips and make bolts of them. you probardly think why for the love (fill in a god of your choice) would i make those???? example: if you have jade bolts and you enchant them, they have an extremely usefull special attack, they can stun people and monsters!!! i tested iton CW and i have a not really high ranged lvl, but 1 of the 6 shots was an special attack(bolts have special random attacks, they dont consume power so you still can use your ddp or something else) the rocks came down(the animation of the attack), and they couldnt move anymore(lol, hahaha, lol :XD: )so they get slain by other bolts with special attack, and they life happy for the rest of their life :XD: and the fun part is...you can still wear shields. all the time i get asked: what kind of special attack do you use, so i said bolts....every "victim" understand now the power of bolts.. so i really suggest to make bolts, i know they are not good to train with but in wildy or on CW theyre handy if you have comment or tips please post...will add them

im improving them (btw. added a new thing how to fast lvl up herblore and make money)

first...im back from vacation!! second,...that pasword thing, is a software from mine computer i got from school........something to protect YOUR work so other cannot steal it...i forgot to shutdown...I HATE THAT PROGRAM,,....but you need it to get on the schools website it should now no longer occur. at first: air runes are harder to sell, most f2p have an air staff. so its much easyer to trade minds for essence, or money i've waited 2 hours in a f2p world for bargains and this is what people wanted to buy from runes: air-2 times water-3 times earth-5 times fire-9 times mind-9 times chaos-4 times cosmic-1 time nature-10 times law-3 times(excluding:"buying one law 1k!!") death-4 times buying all runes-1 time you see its also easy for selling fire and other elemental, ....but you wont get much of them from one essence...so its not realy as profitable for making minds or airs... .....so its much easyer to sell minds...although they are harder to make but....we have abbys!!! and pouches!! and minds are also good use for slayer dart -im busy making calculations and timeing how long it takes -with an hally you can easely train strenght....but not attack thyats where its all about,...the attacks...some weapons are just easyer to train an stat with ps. if you still have the problem with that pass please post it or pm me

going on a vacation, ...next week i cant improve the guide but keep posting, ...................maybe i can find an computer with internet over there wintersport!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :XD: :thumbsup:

banned becaus i dont have a good reason to ban you!!!

thanks guys...finally some people who dont really have comment(or else dont write it)

at first if you read you wil see that 82 thieving is for EASY acces to the bank in yanille, of course you can teleport or somethin like that to bank. for the whip, i said its the best weapon to train attack, you can always use somthing else. mind runes....how about our f2p players??? im sure they want to do that,, and....we have energy, super energy potions, strange fruit, white fruit minth cakes, etc. to bump our energy, if we have enough we could run for eternity.... and we have pouches, abbyse and other shortcuts. and if youre a bit high you get multiple runes....so if youre really high its more profitable than laws or nats.

if you read further (read: above)i know how to do it now....but i dont have time now...got to go to school tomorrow so i have to sleep... if i find some time tomorrow i will be adding them

just say it again....if you think my guide is...erm TERRIBLE, please say what i SHOULD do, not only what i SHOULD NOT do about the pictures....im fairly new here and i dont have the expertise jet to add some pics, but im working on it!! and its only a start....if i work on it further it will get better... (that with the links was only a temporarely solution, i dont type whole day!! i want to rs and adobe too!!!) and i looked at other guides....there are lots of guides same layout as mine...sometimes same type of information...but not so much...i only have lots of information..maybe i should order it more about times...i'm calculating how much xp per hour...but im adding it in the guide if i have all the numbers...i only have 75percent now

dang!!!yes totally forgot!! and you get prayer xp and crafting xp for it!!

i did know that....but i forgot to type