HugATree

Its not just the population. It is also the fact that the human species evolves to protect itself from disease by having the weak people die. This way the stronger more advanced genes would live and thus have more room to expand. Exactly, so don't use any form of medicine.. hypocrite.

I'm amazed the amount of people who'd let AIDS continue just to control the population; medical science must be their worst enemy letting all those sick people live, until they're the ones sick then its their best friend.

Right.. Killing kids in the OT is justice. A 3 month old human is a baby thats already born, not many people work their age from the time of their conception.

The bible makes no claim where babies go, and I'm sure you're not the bible god. If you're talking of the bible god, alot of things done in the bible isn't fair. What country do you live in? I've never heard of legally killing 3 month old babies.

What the hell is a bang from nowhere?

So what a reductionists definition of love if its not chemicals?

Haven't you been paying attention? There is proof of evolution, its a scientific theory. Things like god aren't theories. I do agree with your point that there is proof of evolution and such...but think about God in a different way. There's no proof of love at all. Its a feeling inside that you only understand once you feel it. What if God was like that? You can't tell someone whether or not they are in love (or any other emotion like that) in the same way that I might feel God's presence and know its there. Afterall, it is written in the Bible that "God is love." I think there is evidence of love and emotion such as chemicals in the blood and brain. God(s) can be really be used to explain anything, sure they might exist or something similar but the "god did it" argument is deceptive.

Haven't you been paying attention? There is proof of evolution, its a scientific theory. Things like god aren't theories.

Is there proof of gravity? :shock: Nuhuh, Gravity is only a theory; I propose intelligent falling, gravity is so complex that it needs to be created by a 'pusher'. I believe the person pushing us to the 'centre of gravity' is God. Teach the controversyÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ãâæ You don't know what you're talking about, god is pulling us not pushing.

I'm seeing the same argument over and over that real morals need to be absolute, though I've never seen one who profess absolute morals actually demonstrate them, or even give an example of them.

Complete rubbish, good is a synonym for beneficial.

Odd then that the religious states in America have higher rates of divorce, teen pregnancy, abortion and violence. Yea, they sure are better off.

Lol. When you get there you can ask him.

Seeing as alot of people have been affected by creationisms misconceptions, its not surprising textbooks would still explain it even if they both work from the same mechanisms.

No, its Evolution. Micro-evolution, and Macro-Evolution are creationist terms, "adaption" is another way of saying "Evolution is wrong, even if I agree with it"

How are you pagan then if the only goddess is yourself? You sound more like Atheist, or modern satanist.

Well, in response to that: *cough*Adam*cough* Of course, thats my belief opposed to yours. Eh.. All life as in all life on earth, not just humans. I thought Adam was the equivent of Eves husband, I didn't read anything about him and the animals. The whole concept of Original Sin states that we all inherited the first sin from Adam. Christ came to Earth to die for our sins and erase this Original Sin. All who believe him are cleansed of Adam's Sin *although capable of committing thier own*. I know what original sin is, I wanted to know why we deserved it.

I asked the question as you said its all our fault, even if I wasn't present at the event.

Right, I'm lazy because someone wants to pretend genetics are all myth. The very fact all life on earth is genetically related, supporting the claim all life shares a common ancestor. Beneficial mutation in humans Apo-AIM http://talkorigins.org/faqs/information/apolipoprotein.html Legged whales and seacows http://talkorigins.org/faqs/comdesc/section1.html#morphological_intermediates_ex3 Complete fossil record of horse evolution http://talkorigins.org/faqs/horses/horse_evol.html

Can you explain why its our fault? We disobeyed God? Its right there in Genesis Chapter 2. It was the Original Sin. When did I do this? I don't ever remember that happening. Please do a simple look up on genetics, and mutations. Numerous links have been posted on this board in the past. Really? How did it become a scientific theory if its just speculation?

Faked fossils exist on both sides of the argument; not everything turns into a fossil though, in alot of conditions the organism would simply decay away. Darwin also lived some 100 years ago, before the common knowledge of genetics/DNA.

I find it odd someone who "loves" science knows so little about it, even to the point of spreading false information. If you wanted scientific evidence for evolution you'd look at the tests, experiments, observations; instead you're closing your eyes and covering your ears and saying "no it doesn't". It would probably be easier if you looked up the meaning of a scientific theory(or science in general), and save the "speculation" argument for those ignorant enough to buy it.

Can you explain why its our fault?

You're the one claiming nothing once existed, you prove it. As for evolution, you won't believe it at all; you're already making up its never been proven. The scientific theory of evolution is the explanation of observed biological evolution. Many creationists still confuse scientific theory with hypothesis.

Its called a copout